Passenger attacks pilots with an axe! (Sentenced)
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Passenger attacks pilots with an axe!
A passenger (a Algerian in his thirties) apparently has attacked the cockpit crew of the small norwegian airline Kato air (www.katoair.no) with a fireaxe which is part of the planes emergency equipment. The axe was taken from its place in an overhead handluggage compartment Other sources says that this axe is kept in the cockpit, only accessable to the pilots. This is supposed to have happened during approach into Bodo Airport (BOO). Reports of blood in the cockpit/cabin. "Somebody shouted; come help us!" Two of the passengers managed to pull the big man out of the cockpit, and to keep him controlled. One of the passengers says that the plane was moving about, and descending, only recovering "thirty meters from the ground". The pilots have been taken to hospital, at least one bleeding severly from the head. Not life threatning injuries. One of the passerngers is also injured. The attacker seems to have been taken away in a straightjacket, resisting the arrest. The plane is a Dornier 228. Link to norwegian papers:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/09/29/409735.html
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=247437
The plane departed Narvik Airport, a small airport that will not get equipment for scanning and safety checks before 1.1.2005. I don't suppose the Dornier 228 has a "bulletproof" cockpit door either? At least until recently, it has been customary for the main airline in northern Norway (Wideroe) to keep the cockpit door open during flight. I guess those days are over now.
Last desember a Dornier 228 operated by Kato Air was hit by lightning, causing the elevator to be inoperable. The pilots managed to fly the aircraft to the destination airport by using only elevator trim. The plane crashlanded at the very beginning of the runway, following a go-around.
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/discussions...main/1288577/5
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/09/29/409735.html
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=247437
The plane departed Narvik Airport, a small airport that will not get equipment for scanning and safety checks before 1.1.2005. I don't suppose the Dornier 228 has a "bulletproof" cockpit door either? At least until recently, it has been customary for the main airline in northern Norway (Wideroe) to keep the cockpit door open during flight. I guess those days are over now.
Last desember a Dornier 228 operated by Kato Air was hit by lightning, causing the elevator to be inoperable. The pilots managed to fly the aircraft to the destination airport by using only elevator trim. The plane crashlanded at the very beginning of the runway, following a go-around.
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I'd be interested to know what size the axe was to be able to get it through security. I'm amazed the other passengers didn't get him away quicker, i know that when i fly as a passenger i get twitchy just when people go to the toilet at the front of the a/c.
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I'd be interested to know what size the axe was to be able to get it through security.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3700146.stm
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Latest from CNN, paraphrasing the TV report I just watched, is that both crew, plus 7 passengers, were taken to hospital with head wounds.
Hope the bastard that did this is found sane so he rots in jail.
Hope the bastard that did this is found sane so he rots in jail.
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From: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
Norwegian TV just reported (police press conference) that the aircraft got as low as 100ft AGL before the crew restored control of the aircraft. (They where apparently supposed to be a lot higher a the time.)
Hope the casaulties recover from the ordeal.
The Axe (source: www.dagbladet.no)
Dagbladet allso claim that the accident happended 10 minutes prior to landing, and given the terrain in that area, a uncontrolled decend to 100ft is VERY scary.
Hope the casaulties recover from the ordeal.
The Axe (source: www.dagbladet.no)
Dagbladet allso claim that the accident happended 10 minutes prior to landing, and given the terrain in that area, a uncontrolled decend to 100ft is VERY scary.
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From: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
The suspect was admitted to a closed psychiatric institution this evening after a medical examination.
He will be interrogated at noon tomorrow, his medical condition permitting.
Any aircrew want to comment on the prospect of flying pax in a aircraft with no physical barrier between cabin and cockpit. (Not counting the 1£ nylon curtain on the Dornier)
Security at Narvik is perhaps not the issue, when a crazy person armed with any suitable object, can storm into the cockpit at a critical point of flight, and start swinging? (Grab a glass waterbottle, seatbelt, sock w/sodacan, you name it)
He will be interrogated at noon tomorrow, his medical condition permitting.
Any aircrew want to comment on the prospect of flying pax in a aircraft with no physical barrier between cabin and cockpit. (Not counting the 1£ nylon curtain on the Dornier)
Security at Narvik is perhaps not the issue, when a crazy person armed with any suitable object, can storm into the cockpit at a critical point of flight, and start swinging? (Grab a glass waterbottle, seatbelt, sock w/sodacan, you name it)
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According to several newsreports tonight here in Norway, the aircraft did go into a spin from approach to ENBO at 8000 ft. while the pilots (and passengers) fought the highjacker trying to crach the aircraft.
The pilots did at the same time trying to recover from the spin. Luckely they did so 100 ft. AGL.
All my respect and honour to the pilots for saving a VERY dramatic situation while beeing injured themself.
The pilots did at the same time trying to recover from the spin. Luckely they did so 100 ft. AGL.
All my respect and honour to the pilots for saving a VERY dramatic situation while beeing injured themself.
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Very well done crew and pax.
looks like the asylum seeker found one! Sorry, couldn't resist that one.
The suspect was admitted to a closed psychiatric institution
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One of the crew, and one of the passengers appears on a NRK talk show at the moment.
Pilot says the attack commenced when the aircraft was on final, at aprox 4000ft.
They plunged to 100ft due to the Algerian pushing the controll collum forward.
Nose up pitch was gained with other means (perhaps trim/????) during recovery from the dive.
After the battle between the attacker and passengers, the collum was released, which resulted in violent nose up movement, with a climb to 1200ft, where the aircraft stalled, and nosed down again. The aircraft was subsequently recovered, and landed safely.
Both pilots lost their headsets, and was not able to establish contact with ATC during/after the incident.
Pilot says the attack commenced when the aircraft was on final, at aprox 4000ft.
They plunged to 100ft due to the Algerian pushing the controll collum forward.
Nose up pitch was gained with other means (perhaps trim/????) during recovery from the dive.
After the battle between the attacker and passengers, the collum was released, which resulted in violent nose up movement, with a climb to 1200ft, where the aircraft stalled, and nosed down again. The aircraft was subsequently recovered, and landed safely.
Both pilots lost their headsets, and was not able to establish contact with ATC during/after the incident.
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So where are those who were so vociferous about having to lock the flight deck door or even having a strengthened door in the first place?
So this Do228 didn't have a door but I am sure there are a couple of pilots that wish that it had had one!
Anne
So this Do228 didn't have a door but I am sure there are a couple of pilots that wish that it had had one!
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Some very measured responses to an appalling incident.There really is no point venting frustration or anger anymore;not only should this maniac have been on a watchlist(Algerian and an asylum-seeker,what better reason for being on a watchlist?),he should have been escorted by an armed guard.
Perhaps you Euros can see why we want armed pilots/marshalls and why we divert/intercept a flight at the slightest whiff of suspicion.
I suppose that other maniac who had a gun on a Ryanair flight about two years ago is probably out of jail by now and enjoying benefits.
Perhaps you Euros can see why we want armed pilots/marshalls and why we divert/intercept a flight at the slightest whiff of suspicion.
I suppose that other maniac who had a gun on a Ryanair flight about two years ago is probably out of jail by now and enjoying benefits.
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From: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
Well put f40!
And today, It seems the tabloid rags have gotten hold of the timeline, and hint at having info from the radar recordings.
(Some genious in Avinor has released that info it seems)
From Dagbladet
And today, It seems the tabloid rags have gotten hold of the timeline, and hint at having info from the radar recordings.
(Some genious in Avinor has released that info it seems)
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Over the last year I have dead headed on several European carriers and noticed the cockpit door left open on many of them for the entire flight. The most recent was on Iberia Seville-Madrid-Rome and the cockpit doors were open for the entire flight. When I asked one of the crewmembers about their doors being open I got the impression they view cockpit incursions as an American problem. It's one thing to say you don't want armed marshals but quite another to leave the door open for the bad guys. Sometimes lessons have to be learned the hard way. This crew was lucky.
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Security checks that should have been implemented on all regional airports in Norway on May 5th this year, were postponed until the end of the year.
After last week's tragic happenings, improvised security checks have now been implemented country wide.
Calf/door or better late than never?
link to story
After last week's tragic happenings, improvised security checks have now been implemented country wide.
Calf/door or better late than never?
link to story