Alitalia ERJ 145 skidded of Rwy at LSZH

[Akro]

Hi Everyone,

Any detailed information about that???
Heard it must have been aquaplaning.

[fly4fud]

Airport was closed for a while. After landing we taxied passed the incident aircraft. All parts still attached and the Embraer looking undamaged, but for the dirt. It appears to have skidded off the end of rwy 14, reason unknown, but +RA at the time.

Pax & crew unhurt acc local news

[sky unlimited]

This is not the first time an ERJ 145 is skidding off the runway.....
It also happened a few months ago at LEBB with a Portugalia 145 and it almost happened with an ERJ 145 from KLM exel at one of the Berlin Airports (Tempelhof?) several months ago.

Skid baby skid!

[Akro]

Yes, I heard it hasn't been the first one. Does anyone have an experience in skidding ERJ's? I wonder what the problem is. (however it's not the only aircraft type that skids of runways!)

Cheers

[Cardinal]

Continental Express had an 145 do a full 360 on rollout at EWR. Some said the brake was set when they landed, but that is highly speculative.

[Pancake]

I believe that it was the same 145 as that pictured behind the storm-battered L-1011 in Pigboat's third photo in the thread 'AirTransat vs +ThunderStrom/Hail'. Eerie...! Busy week at ZRH methinks... Real glad that all POB were OK in both incidents.

- P.

[N380UA]

Unofficial report claims that the ERJ was landing long. In combination with +RA and contaminated RW the aircraft was unable to come to a stop before the end of the runway.

[Akro]

Rwy 14 in ZRH is 3300m long and got the first (high speed-) turn off "H2" almost at the end of the Rwy. Sometimes we land there with almost no braking at all (however this means a touch down at the right spot, somewhere where you still have those white markings). I guess as stated before, they must have been high and fast on top of the bad weather (+RA). However this is pure speculation!
Anyone here with real facts or a link to a website about that??

[N380UA]

Akro,
There wont be an official report on the incident for a while. Not even an unofficial website and nothing on the Alitalias homepage. Bureaucratic wheels turn slow everywhere. All we got up to day are speculations, some just come from a better source than others.
Cheers

[nitefiter]

I don`t think the 145/135 is any worse or any better than anything else in the wet,
you just have to put it on firmly rather than try to grease it,get on the brakes and try to avoid the white lines.

[fly4fud]

Just found this on the Swiss accident investigation site:


Swiss Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau Berne, 06 August 2001
NOTIFICATION OF AN ACCIDENT
This report contains short preliminary information about an accident in Switzerland without
pretension to completeness and without conclusions. An investigation is in progress by the
Swiss Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau.
Place, date and time: Zurich Airport, 03.08.2001, 14.40 UTC
Aircraft:
Registration Mark: I-EXME
Type: Embraer EAB 145LR
Operator: Alitalia Express
Owner Alitalia S.P.A. Rome
Pilot: 2
Crew / Passengers: 3 / 46
Flight:
Flight rules: IFR
Type of operation:: Scheduled flight
Point and Time of
departure:
Milano Malpensa, 14.07 UTC
Point of landing: Zurich
Damage:
Crew: none
Passengers: none
Thirds: none
Aircraft: Slightly damaged
Ground: none
Short description of the
accident:
After the landing on a wet runway, the aircraft left the end
of runway 14. The aircraft crossed a field and came to a
stop with the r/h main landing gear and the nose landing
gear on a road.
Investigator in charge: Daniel W. Knecht / Ueli Erny

[N380UA]

Thanx for the update fly4fud.

[Hunter58]

Rumour has it the Embraer is likely to float. Any insider to enlighten us about that?

[nitefiter]

If you don`t fly the numbers or flare to early the 145 does have a tendancy to float a bit it`s not normally a problem if you fly it right.Dont know if it floats on water cos nobody ever ditched one!!