Ryanair, another close call !!
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Rat 5 this approach and landing was not due to a tech problem, the aircraft was fully servicable before the landing, not sure how it stood after the approach and landing.
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Sorry folks, 
info is from chief pilot directly. Crew has been fired. And yes was not tech issue. And yes again Capt was due to leave company for deep south, acctualy very deep south.
I would like this is not correct. But it is.
info is from chief pilot directly. Crew has been fired. And yes was not tech issue. And yes again Capt was due to leave company for deep south, acctualy very deep south.
I would like this is not correct. But it is.
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But from jump seat observation in the old days, IIR, the 73 takes flaps 1,5,15, gear down, 25, 30 and land flap?
1,5, gear down, 15, 25, 30 or 40.
Flap 15 is a land flap setting under certain circumstances (i.e engine failure) and so you get an un-cancellable gear horn if 15 is selected before the gear is extended.
BOTFOJ I also enjoyed the Ryanair air show today over Crawley.
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Nope, the captain left as said before and the F/O will be on the schedule again very shortly.
Sad that so much rubbish is mentioned here. And a go-around in STN will be more and more common in the future as ATC is already squeezing too hard these days, the only point is, what relation is given here with the NYO incident...
Sad that so much rubbish is mentioned here. And a go-around in STN will be more and more common in the future as ATC is already squeezing too hard these days, the only point is, what relation is given here with the NYO incident...
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BOTFOJ - sorry my mate. Think I must have had my "attitude" hat on when I read ya post cos I took it to be FR bashing. We all a little sensetive right now 
. Glad the boys were able to entertain!
. Glad the boys were able to entertain!
Heard the GA at LGW yesterday as well - from the sound I thought the Red Arrows were doing a flyby on their way somewhere, it was complete with 2 brown smoke trail afterall 
Looked like good sport
Looked like good sport
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Nightrider,
my info came straight from Chief Pilot on 26th of July. If they decided to change decision later on I haven`t been informed. I personally like your info, rather than mine.
my info came straight from Chief Pilot on 26th of July. If they decided to change decision later on I haven`t been informed. I personally like your info, rather than mine.
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Norwegian wood, go to Frankfurt, Schipol & many others - tailwind landings are frequent & quite normal! Now, if anyone did a tailwind landing on ESKN's runway 16 (or 34) & landed long..... saw a 1-11 land after the intersection of the runways on 34 one day. Lots of reverse & brakes for very interesting retardation. 
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To me it seems that Ryanair flights are doing a lot of tailwind landings at Skavsta (to save time?), anybody seen a bird do a tailwind landing ,by the way?
most of them in Norway
There can be many reasons for landing flaps 10,
hydraulic failure or split flaps is one of them..
It seems like a popular thing those days to criticise Ryanair pilots.
My experiance is that Ryanair has highly professional pilots.
and (no i dont fly for Ryanair)
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Capt Inop, I thought somebody said on this thread there was no technical failure to the aircraft! Anyways this tailwind business, go to Spain, preferential rwy system up to 6 to 10 kts.
So interesting to see why they landed in the config as they did
So interesting to see why they landed in the config as they did
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Flap 1 & 5 have a placard speed of 250 kts, flap 10 can selected at 210 knots which gives the same speed as flap 5 (in the region of 160-170 kts)
If they could not select flap 15 they must have been at or above 200 kts as that is the placard speed for flap 15.
My opinion is that if there was no fault, and he continued, and therefore put the safety of everyone onboard at risk with the attitude "im leaving anyway" he should be taken to court (as was done in the Hapag-Llyod situation). If he was leaving anyway, what, would they fire him for a G/A, which would have been the correct action? I hope there was something wrong with the A/C, otherwise it is getting serious.
Happy landings
If they could not select flap 15 they must have been at or above 200 kts as that is the placard speed for flap 15.
My opinion is that if there was no fault, and he continued, and therefore put the safety of everyone onboard at risk with the attitude "im leaving anyway" he should be taken to court (as was done in the Hapag-Llyod situation). If he was leaving anyway, what, would they fire him for a G/A, which would have been the correct action? I hope there was something wrong with the A/C, otherwise it is getting serious.
Happy landings
