CRC takes its toll at BA.
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Well HZ answer?
By the way I'm very grateful to Danny for allowing me to post again.
Now I'll promise to be a good boy and toe the line so as to fit in here.
I'm sorry for all my earlier misdeamenours and won't say anything contentious ever again promise.
NN
By the way I'm very grateful to Danny for allowing me to post again.
Now I'll promise to be a good boy and toe the line so as to fit in here.
I'm sorry for all my earlier misdeamenours and won't say anything contentious ever again promise.
NN
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As with so many things, the principle is a good one, but the practicalities of the system bring the whole thing into disrepute. Personally I would like my CRC to be done in Humberside so there's no chance of finding anything!
I have a RZ pass as an FI working out of an "International" UK airport, but thankfully nobody has got round to asking me for a CRC check. Only new club members need that, and in any case what about all our trial lessons who gain airside access without any check whatsoever.
The CRC system has also been a disaster in the medical world, where it is common for several junior doctors to be prevented from starting their new jobs whilst awaiting clearance. This has meant that there have often been serious staff shortages in hospitals. Once again, I as a long in the tooth consultant have never been checked, it only applies to new employees so far in the NHS. No doubt eventually they'll catch me out for my parking tickets in 1976, and hopefully I'll get suspended on full pay.
I have a RZ pass as an FI working out of an "International" UK airport, but thankfully nobody has got round to asking me for a CRC check. Only new club members need that, and in any case what about all our trial lessons who gain airside access without any check whatsoever.
The CRC system has also been a disaster in the medical world, where it is common for several junior doctors to be prevented from starting their new jobs whilst awaiting clearance. This has meant that there have often been serious staff shortages in hospitals. Once again, I as a long in the tooth consultant have never been checked, it only applies to new employees so far in the NHS. No doubt eventually they'll catch me out for my parking tickets in 1976, and hopefully I'll get suspended on full pay.
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Suggest BJCC takes a reality check and get's his facts right. There are no problems with the CRC system if you have a clear background but some offences are carried on your record for 7 years and some for 10 depending on the offence and the length of any custodial sentence.
I have just had the misfortune of terminating the employment of a member of staff who "made an error of gudgement" four years ago and this showed on his CRC. There is no appeal against this and it has just got worse. It is now a criminal offence for any manager to employ some one who he knows will not get a clean CRC.
I have just had the misfortune of terminating the employment of a member of staff who "made an error of gudgement" four years ago and this showed on his CRC. There is no appeal against this and it has just got worse. It is now a criminal offence for any manager to employ some one who he knows will not get a clean CRC.
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PP Towers,
There are even more of these crazy disqualifying offences, how about, and I quote : a company director publishing false statement, destroying a will, abduction of a woman by force or for the sake of her property, so anyone found guilty of any of the above offences - watch out !!!
We are all human and during our lives we make certain mistakes, but I fail to see how any of the above mentioned offences could be 'terrorist related', surely, we as a democratic society, should have the right to appeal if we fall into any of the diqualifying criteria?, but at the moment we don't so its good night vienna - and you loose everything
This whole issue pi@*es me off
If these checks are to be taken seriously then at least the whole of Eurpoe should have them done, not just in the UK !
There are even more of these crazy disqualifying offences, how about, and I quote : a company director publishing false statement, destroying a will, abduction of a woman by force or for the sake of her property, so anyone found guilty of any of the above offences - watch out !!!
We are all human and during our lives we make certain mistakes, but I fail to see how any of the above mentioned offences could be 'terrorist related', surely, we as a democratic society, should have the right to appeal if we fall into any of the diqualifying criteria?, but at the moment we don't so its good night vienna - and you loose everything
This whole issue pi@*es me off
If these checks are to be taken seriously then at least the whole of Eurpoe should have them done, not just in the UK !
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I take it that is just for a job requiring an airside pass .
What I am aware of is that any minor misdemeanour in the future could cost you heavily . Being accused and found guilty will mean you will lose everything .
Can you be a monk and still fly 747s ? I've almost got the hairstyle already courtesy of Sennheiser .
I take it that is just for a job requiring an airside pass .
What I am aware of is that any minor misdemeanour in the future could cost you heavily . Being accused and found guilty will mean you will lose everything .
Can you be a monk and still fly 747s ? I've almost got the hairstyle already courtesy of Sennheiser .
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A company director publishing a false statement is one of the most serious white collar crimes there is, and I am therefore unsurprised that it is qualiflying. It refers to published financial statements, and without taking responsibility for such I would not want a similar person in charge of an aircraft.
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Its a good thing this didn't happen a few years ago when a certain Concorde Captain was "done" for importing computer parts in excess of his limit. He would obviously in todays climate have lost his airside pass.
None of us liked him, but that's not the point.
Enjoy your retirement Porky.
None of us liked him, but that's not the point.
Enjoy your retirement Porky.
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I can't speak for the situation with land side passes as all of my guys are air side but the operator I had to part company with was absolutely gutted and feels he his now being punished all over again.
I argued his case with Airport Security and the Department of Transport but they are not interested.
If he had been done for driving whilst under the influence he would have been OK but petty theft was a complete no no.
And this comes at a time when we have a reasonably size contingent of "asylum seekers" working for a catering company - (all of whom have airside passes) but whose backgrounds can't be checked.
Something tells me we have gone wrong somewhere.
I can't speak for the situation with land side passes as all of my guys are air side but the operator I had to part company with was absolutely gutted and feels he his now being punished all over again.
I argued his case with Airport Security and the Department of Transport but they are not interested.
If he had been done for driving whilst under the influence he would have been OK but petty theft was a complete no no.
And this comes at a time when we have a reasonably size contingent of "asylum seekers" working for a catering company - (all of whom have airside passes) but whose backgrounds can't be checked.
Something tells me we have gone wrong somewhere.
