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Old 15th Jun 2004, 00:56
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Mixed Fleet Flying, is it SAFE?

Flying for a well known large airline, I was wondering what other airlines Mix Fleet Fly (MFF), 3 types or more, variations of 2 to 4 jets and more than 140,000kgs difference in weight?

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Safe? Well I dunno...

A good friend of mine was once triple qualified..
B747
B767
L1011

He never crashed.
OTOH, he did spend a lot of time in the simulator
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A320, A321, A330 - V2500, CFM and Trent. Do I have a suitcase, if yes, 330, flare high, if not, MiniBus, flare normally
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Javelin,

You forgot A330-300 P & W

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Used to work in the air taxi world where I was once current on Beech 200 Kingair, PA-31 Navajo and PA-23 Aztec. The big gotcha was the Piper gear/flap levers. Identical levers on the Aztec and Navajo but opposite sides - never allowed myself to retract flaps on the runway just in case I got the the gear..........
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I used to alternate through three types at once for about three years. Nothing so heavy though. I did the hs748, b1900D, and a b200. Not a real problem unless you do too much in the same one for a long time and then switch to the least flown one. It made for a few "firm" landings
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Whilst flying in Papua New Guinea many years ago hours crunching, we were current on C206, Islander, C402, DH6 (some guys Emb110 as well). My best was three in one day. Good fun and it kept you on your toes!
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Old 16th Jun 2004, 10:45
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My simple answer is NFW.

In the early days of this company, people were flying DC6/6B and the Electra.

These days there is a lot of CCQ on the Bus fleet which I frankly think is not a good look.

My basic objection is that a/c with vastly different gross weights do not perform the same way even if they have the same fuselage and the same wing.The power/weight ratios are so different.

When things go very wrong, your instincts are all you have.

If you want real misery in your life, spend half of it flying 330's round the region at light weights and the other half flying the four hair dryers long haul at MTOW's.

Then get in the 340-600 after a gound school lecture and find it is a totally different aeroplane with a different wing. Good to have the power but the damn thing will not go down no matter what you do to it.

One day, your number will come up, especially when the dog is sitting 3 inches closer to the ground than you think it is.

RH may disagree but that's my 2 pence worth. I am sure I am not alone in my views.

MFF is reduces safety, simple as that.

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Old 16th Jun 2004, 11:52
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Currently flying 330, 340-212/313 left seat and 330, 340-212/313 right seat. Anyone else out there changing seats on what is effectively 3 types?
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Notso where are you?

You should bark at this as it is definitely NOT Rumours & News!
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Old 16th Jun 2004, 23:39
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The original question was how safe is it? Not how fantastic do you think you are because you're flying all these wonderful machines around from every seat in the ship and you still haven't duffed it? Couple of ego issues at play methinks. This post is principally made in an effort to get the thread back to it's original quest.

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i guess it is just as safe as the guy/girl flying it!
fly it using common sense and don't get into procedural habbit
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Old 19th Jun 2004, 00:44
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Why is it not safe? As long as the boys and girls know what they do and where they are.... I would not mix a Scarebus and a Bobby

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