Ryanair emergency at Charleroi
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I read, I think it was in Flight International, that Ryanair were looking at exploiting the used aircraft market, by making some good lease rates on Boeing 737 Classic series aircraft - I believe the figure was as many as 50 aircraft.
I'm presuming that the reason for doing this, is to more quickly phase out the 737-200s with 737-300s (much better economics along the way adding 18 extra seats over the -200s) but I don't understand the mentality considering the huge order for brand new aircraft that the airline has. I'm sure that the ex-buzz -300s must have done something at Ryanair to consider the growth in the -300 fleet?
Why not simply replace the -200s on a "one -200 retires, an -800 replaces it?" schedule over the next few months, or as with EasyJet who I believe insisted Airbus deliver 18 319s in the first six months of delivery, ask Boeing to increase the delivery rate?
If the -800 proves too big for a number of routes, then why not operate a dual fleet of Boeing 737 -700/-800 or -600/-800?
I just don't understand why they would increase adding older, more costly to operate aircraft as a long term decision.
I'm presuming that the reason for doing this, is to more quickly phase out the 737-200s with 737-300s (much better economics along the way adding 18 extra seats over the -200s) but I don't understand the mentality considering the huge order for brand new aircraft that the airline has. I'm sure that the ex-buzz -300s must have done something at Ryanair to consider the growth in the -300 fleet?
Why not simply replace the -200s on a "one -200 retires, an -800 replaces it?" schedule over the next few months, or as with EasyJet who I believe insisted Airbus deliver 18 319s in the first six months of delivery, ask Boeing to increase the delivery rate?
If the -800 proves too big for a number of routes, then why not operate a dual fleet of Boeing 737 -700/-800 or -600/-800?
I just don't understand why they would increase adding older, more costly to operate aircraft as a long term decision.
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I believe that plan is now off the agenda. It seems it was only a bargaining tactic to scare Boeing into further price reductions on more 737-800's.
This method of "bargaining" has come much into fashion with Aer Lingus these days too! ;-)
I believe that plan is now off the agenda. It seems it was only a bargaining tactic to scare Boeing into further price reductions on more 737-800's.
This method of "bargaining" has come much into fashion with Aer Lingus these days too! ;-)
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noise apart....I've been flying on 200 and 700 series, but I prefer 200 for the kind of engine (think rolls royce, correct me if I'm sayng something outdated or totally wrong...I'm stewardess not pilot). Which other probs have a 200 serie other than noise? technical problems, I mean, not more fuel needed or shorter range....
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The engine on the 200s is the Pratt and Whitney JT8 (I think), a splendid beast conceived in the early 60s. If you sit in a window seat just aft of the wing you get a good view of the oil oozing out of the joints throughout the flight.
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Concerning the incident at EBCI there is a great footage here (in Dutch) :
http://www.vtm.be/asx/vtmnieuws/vtmnieuws19uur_Vr.asx
http://www.vtm.be/asx/vtmnieuws/vtmnieuws19uur_Vr.asx
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Why would how old the aircraft have to do with how old the slides are? Please say you didnt possibly think the slides were the ones installed when the aircraft was first produced.
Would you drive a car that was 40 years old on grounds that it maybe dangerous its brakes could fail?
Pretty sure they would have been replaced at least 10 times.
Sorry just sick of the 737-200 negative ill informed comments.
Is quite possible one of the early 800's could have older slides !!!
Would you drive a car that was 40 years old on grounds that it maybe dangerous its brakes could fail?
Pretty sure they would have been replaced at least 10 times.
Sorry just sick of the 737-200 negative ill informed comments.
Is quite possible one of the early 800's could have older slides !!!
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Your point? They are still required to follow the same maintenance program that all carriers follow.
Produce facts.
Can think of many airlines that have had more serious incidents than FR have.
I am not an ATPL yet but I don't worry for a second when I go flying in a 36 year old light aeroplane because I have confidence in the strict maintenance schedule thats been conducted over the aircraft's life time.
Before this comes up the scoring on the hulls of the 200s. Ryanair made the decision to ground some of the fleet. These scores were caused by a bad paint job.
Your point? They are still required to follow the same maintenance program that all carriers follow.
Produce facts.
Can think of many airlines that have had more serious incidents than FR have.
I am not an ATPL yet but I don't worry for a second when I go flying in a 36 year old light aeroplane because I have confidence in the strict maintenance schedule thats been conducted over the aircraft's life time.
Before this comes up the scoring on the hulls of the 200s. Ryanair made the decision to ground some of the fleet. These scores were caused by a bad paint job.
