DEFINATE good news on Concorde
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DEFINATE good news on Concorde
Concorde may be back on 7th Novemer, check it here http://uk.news.yahoo.com/011015/80/c9lxh.html
statement about its future due today from Air France
Fingers crossed!
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statement about its future due today from Air France
Fingers crossed!
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Hope it's true! 
But why won't BA make a statement on it? I guess it's not definete but it'd be nice to hear something to the effect of 'If all goes well..'
It'd be nice to hear some good news for once!
But why won't BA make a statement on it? I guess it's not definete but it'd be nice to hear something to the effect of 'If all goes well..'
It'd be nice to hear some good news for once!
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Hmm.
The facts as they stand right now.
BA need to modify one more Conc before they can start running a regular passenger service once again.
This costs X million pounds.
BA are in dire straits as far as cash flow is concerned.
Not all the crews have been trained back on the aircraft yet.
Those who have have been told they are likely to be going back to another fleet once again.
I would LOVE to see the Concs back in the air again, but I am not holding my breath. Maybe once BA gets a bit stronger again?
The facts as they stand right now.
BA need to modify one more Conc before they can start running a regular passenger service once again.
This costs X million pounds.
BA are in dire straits as far as cash flow is concerned.
Not all the crews have been trained back on the aircraft yet.
Those who have have been told they are likely to be going back to another fleet once again.
I would LOVE to see the Concs back in the air again, but I am not holding my breath. Maybe once BA gets a bit stronger again?
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I understand 3rd Concorde (G-BOAG) will fly this week. The mods are done and BA are pre-flight test stage.
Here is what BA said officially on the Nov 7th date.
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British Airways pledged its support for New York with the announcement that Concorde flights will resume across the Atlantic on Wednesday, November 7.
Rod Eddington, British Airways’ Chief Executive, said: “We are delighted to be returning Concorde to the skies and back into New York.
“We hope Concorde’s return will play a major part in rebuilding confidence in New York and demonstrating that it is business as usual between the UK and the USA. We have received tremendous support from our regular business customers over the last year and we look forward to carrying them supersonically across the Atlantic once more.”
New York’s Mayor, Rudolph Giuliani, welcomed today’s announcement. He said: “Concorde’s return is symbolic of how all New Yorkers feel about rebuilding this great city. I am personally proud to welcome Concorde back to New York.”
The airline will begin operations with an initial six times a week service between London Heathrow and New York JFK. Bookings open tomorrow, Tuesday October 16 at 9.00am UK time.
Flight BA001 will depart six times each week from London Heathrow at 10.30am local time and arrive in New York at 9.25am local time. The return flight, BA002, will depart New York at 12.15pm local time and arrive at Heathrow at 9.10pm. Flights to and from New York will operate on every day except Saturday.
From 1st December until 13th April 2002, the airline will operate a once a week scheduled Barbados service from Heathrow, departing Saturdays at 9.30am and arriving in Barbados at 9.45am. The return will depart Barbados on Saturdays at 11.45am and arrive at Heathrow at 8.00pm.
Here is what BA said officially on the Nov 7th date.
Back to Business
British Airways pledged its support for New York with the announcement that Concorde flights will resume across the Atlantic on Wednesday, November 7.
Rod Eddington, British Airways’ Chief Executive, said: “We are delighted to be returning Concorde to the skies and back into New York.
“We hope Concorde’s return will play a major part in rebuilding confidence in New York and demonstrating that it is business as usual between the UK and the USA. We have received tremendous support from our regular business customers over the last year and we look forward to carrying them supersonically across the Atlantic once more.”
New York’s Mayor, Rudolph Giuliani, welcomed today’s announcement. He said: “Concorde’s return is symbolic of how all New Yorkers feel about rebuilding this great city. I am personally proud to welcome Concorde back to New York.”
The airline will begin operations with an initial six times a week service between London Heathrow and New York JFK. Bookings open tomorrow, Tuesday October 16 at 9.00am UK time.
Flight BA001 will depart six times each week from London Heathrow at 10.30am local time and arrive in New York at 9.25am local time. The return flight, BA002, will depart New York at 12.15pm local time and arrive at Heathrow at 9.10pm. Flights to and from New York will operate on every day except Saturday.
From 1st December until 13th April 2002, the airline will operate a once a week scheduled Barbados service from Heathrow, departing Saturdays at 9.30am and arriving in Barbados at 9.45am. The return will depart Barbados on Saturdays at 11.45am and arrive at Heathrow at 8.00pm.
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Mr Benn, you said:
<The facts as they stand right now.
BA need to modify one more Conc before they can start running a regular passenger service once again.>
Not really. We have three aircraft ready to go, which is what it needed for one service a day.
<This costs X million pounds.>
Already budgeted for.
<BA are in dire straits as far as cash flow is concerned.>
Again, not really. BA announced that they have £1 billion in cash reserves, plus £3 billion in disposable assets (building etc.)
<Not all the crews have been trained back on the aircraft yet.>
True. But they have fully trained all the crews they need for a daily JFK service. And the rest of them (they are needed for twice a day to JFK) are waiting for their courses, later this year.
<Those who have have been told they are likely to be going back to another fleet once again.>
Not true.
<I would LOVE to see the Concs back in the air again, but I am not holding my breath>
Oh go on, please?
<Maybe once BA gets a bit stronger again? >
Nope. November 7th.
<The facts as they stand right now.
BA need to modify one more Conc before they can start running a regular passenger service once again.>
Not really. We have three aircraft ready to go, which is what it needed for one service a day.
<This costs X million pounds.>
Already budgeted for.
<BA are in dire straits as far as cash flow is concerned.>
Again, not really. BA announced that they have £1 billion in cash reserves, plus £3 billion in disposable assets (building etc.)
<Not all the crews have been trained back on the aircraft yet.>
True. But they have fully trained all the crews they need for a daily JFK service. And the rest of them (they are needed for twice a day to JFK) are waiting for their courses, later this year.
<Those who have have been told they are likely to be going back to another fleet once again.>
Not true.
<I would LOVE to see the Concs back in the air again, but I am not holding my breath>
Oh go on, please?
<Maybe once BA gets a bit stronger again? >
Nope. November 7th.
This is really excellent news that Concorde is becoming operational again.
It is also highly symbolic in the sense that we can rebuild something better and stronger after a disaster and also the fact that it will be flying to New York as well.
I hope and expect that all parties concerned (BA, NY Authorities) will get every bit of good publicity they can from this event. I think we all need some good news at the moment and this would be a good start.
It is also highly symbolic in the sense that we can rebuild something better and stronger after a disaster and also the fact that it will be flying to New York as well.
I hope and expect that all parties concerned (BA, NY Authorities) will get every bit of good publicity they can from this event. I think we all need some good news at the moment and this would be a good start.
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Malanda because it (concord) is such a heap of $hit it breaks almost every flight, thus they always need a couple kicking around at short notice, also its a high maintenance machine (much like Mrs CRP5) so its down time in the hangar is also much longer than more economic, modern, safer airliners. 
>New York’s Mayor, Rudolph Giuliani, welcomed today’s announcement. He said: “Concorde’s return is symbolic of how all New Yorkers feel about rebuilding this great city. I am personally proud to welcome Concorde back to New York.”
It's probably not PC to say so at the moment but is this the first time the words "Concorde", "welcome" and "New York" have appeared in a sentence without the word "NOT"?
It's probably not PC to say so at the moment but is this the first time the words "Concorde", "welcome" and "New York" have appeared in a sentence without the word "NOT"?
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Fantastic news and a boost to Aviation in the denocratic world. Why not put one airframe in the paintshop and emblazon it
all over with the flags of Great Britain, France, and the USA - A message if ever one were needed!
all over with the flags of Great Britain, France, and the USA - A message if ever one were needed!
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CRP5, you said:
<Malanda because it (concord) is such a heap of $hit it breaks almost every flight, thus they always need a couple kicking around at short notice, also its a high maintenance machine (much like Mrs CRP5) so its down time in the hangar is also much longer than more economic, modern, safer airliners. >
You know, you'd think that with all the time I've spent in aviation (27+ years), I'd know better to rise to obvious trolls and sh*t stirers.........
......but what the hell.
CRP5, you're full of sh*t
There, I feel better now.
<Malanda because it (concord) is such a heap of $hit it breaks almost every flight, thus they always need a couple kicking around at short notice, also its a high maintenance machine (much like Mrs CRP5) so its down time in the hangar is also much longer than more economic, modern, safer airliners. >
You know, you'd think that with all the time I've spent in aviation (27+ years), I'd know better to rise to obvious trolls and sh*t stirers.........
......but what the hell.
CRP5, you're full of sh*t
There, I feel better now.
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CRP5 & Mr Benn
As TwoTun has immaculate credentials for commenting on Concorde, I suggest you save your sh*t stirring for one of The Guvnor's posts.
Or perhaps you both are him? - he is known to have multiple i/d's!!
I was proud to hear (Sir) Rudi Giuliani's words.
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As TwoTun has immaculate credentials for commenting on Concorde, I suggest you save your sh*t stirring for one of The Guvnor's posts.
Or perhaps you both are him? - he is known to have multiple i/d's!!
I was proud to hear (Sir) Rudi Giuliani's words.
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Twotonto$$er just quoting “fly wise July 1997-July 2000” for six aircraft does seem to be a disproportionate number of incidence; perhaps I should post ALL OF THESE, for your benefit. Or maybe YOU know better than I. Since I live just 1 mile from 2 ex Concorde Captains, 2 Concorde FE’s and 1 Concorde FO, and meat with these guys I obviously know nothing. As a BA pilot I would NEVER fly on it and would caution my family from doing so!! Put up or shut up you ****, I am not so ill informed as you properly first imagined!
Controversial, moi?
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I won't resort to personal abuse although it is tempting.
If you are so sure of the accuracy of your sweeping generalisations would you be kind enough to actually state some facts in order that we can judge the veracity or otherwise of your claims?
Thank you in anticipation.
I won't resort to personal abuse although it is tempting.
If you are so sure of the accuracy of your sweeping generalisations would you be kind enough to actually state some facts in order that we can judge the veracity or otherwise of your claims?
Thank you in anticipation.
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M.M since I know you are a BA pilot you could go and read "fly wise" and decide for yourself (I have), if you have not kept the back copies then perhaps U could collect them from your fleet MGR, read the post above that I have written, perhaps YOU could answer the question of reliability of Conc. yourself (or have you had the BA lobotomy???) and explain why 3 aircraft are needed!!!! For an 8 hour round trip!! : D: D: D
In all honesty try and convince me otherwise, as stated previously based upon what I know, I would not set foot in it, I state my point of view honestly and based upon information I have. Sorry if it offends you!
In all honesty try and convince me otherwise, as stated previously based upon what I know, I would not set foot in it, I state my point of view honestly and based upon information I have. Sorry if it offends you!