Don't Be Fuelish
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Kat too, Whats the real story then? We've had two different versions so far, one looks like it has been posted by someone with a grudge. The other makes sense.
Either way, i find Hatsoff post the most alarming, 3 sos squawks because of some snow ! Something is'nt right !
Either way, i find Hatsoff post the most alarming, 3 sos squawks because of some snow ! Something is'nt right !

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Every time this one comes to the top the original post gets read. Perhaps the debate would be even healthier if the originator confirmed whether his story is true or not. All debates on here would be healthier if people did not infer the identity of individuals when making allegations. I appreciate that some on here don't know who is being discussed but he does and so do his colleagues. Perhaps those who operate on a worldwide basis don't care who he is but I hope they can find time among their pontifications to care about him as a person. He has been badly treated.

I've only landed a big aeroplane (VC10K) below mins once - 17 Jan 1991 at KKIA, Saudi Arabia. Night one of the Gulf War and we'd had to give away more than we'd been tasked to because of one receiver being perilously low after having to jettison his drop tanks - and then both hoses stuck in the trailed position, increasing our fuel burn by 7%.
That was war. All the posters on this thread have indicated that it is purely commercial greed which is driving them down to such low fuel states in 100% peacetime.
Get a grip, beancounters. No excuse whatever for such low fuel states exists in public transport operations - if you think that safety is too expensive, try estimating the price of an accident!
That was war. All the posters on this thread have indicated that it is purely commercial greed which is driving them down to such low fuel states in 100% peacetime.
Get a grip, beancounters. No excuse whatever for such low fuel states exists in public transport operations - if you think that safety is too expensive, try estimating the price of an accident!

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I've now discovered that the version of events I posted was not what actually happened.
I apologise to the captain involved- I took as gospel what I was told from someone within the company concerned. It is a relief to discover that safe margins were preserved.
What IS interesting, however, is how many of his colleagues believed the version I was told....
I apologise to the captain involved- I took as gospel what I was told from someone within the company concerned. It is a relief to discover that safe margins were preserved.
What IS interesting, however, is how many of his colleagues believed the version I was told....
