Airprox Swiss-KLM above Reims
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Airprox Swiss-KLM above Reims
18.02.2004
Incident in French airspace
A KLM aircraft and a SWISS aircraft came close together early this morning in French airspace near Reims. Thanks to the swift response of both crews and the onboard warning systems, the incident passed without consequence. SWISS has reported the incident to the relevant authorities.
At approximately 07.45 this morning, as SWISS flight LX 17 en route from _New York JFK to Zurich was flying over the city of Reims, the onboard warning system (TCAS, traffic alert and collision avoidance system) indicated the proximity of another aircraft. The SWISS crew followed the system’s instructions and put distance between the two aircraft. _
The French authorities are investigating how it was possible for the two aircraft to come close to one another. As required by regulations, SWISS has reported the incident to the relevant authorities in Switzerland.
The flight landed on schedule in Zurich.
Incident in French airspace
A KLM aircraft and a SWISS aircraft came close together early this morning in French airspace near Reims. Thanks to the swift response of both crews and the onboard warning systems, the incident passed without consequence. SWISS has reported the incident to the relevant authorities.
At approximately 07.45 this morning, as SWISS flight LX 17 en route from _New York JFK to Zurich was flying over the city of Reims, the onboard warning system (TCAS, traffic alert and collision avoidance system) indicated the proximity of another aircraft. The SWISS crew followed the system’s instructions and put distance between the two aircraft. _
The French authorities are investigating how it was possible for the two aircraft to come close to one another. As required by regulations, SWISS has reported the incident to the relevant authorities in Switzerland.
The flight landed on schedule in Zurich.
A note just for fun: Swiss President Bouw is a former KLM guy and he is Dutch. You would bet he was on board of one of the two planes but would never dare to say on which one...
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Media sensation again .. If everytime an aircrfat is following a TCAS RA in the world it came in the news you will get bored to death..
Jut a warning before jumping to conclusions :
For info it is not because you have TCAS RAs that it implies a loss of separation. In fact most RAs are unecessary from an ATC point of view.( But in some cases they really help. )
Also a loss of legal separation minimum occurs as a consequence of RAs is also possible.
Last info ; the strike in France were limited to Orly and Paris ACC.
Reims was not involved.
Jut a warning before jumping to conclusions :
For info it is not because you have TCAS RAs that it implies a loss of separation. In fact most RAs are unecessary from an ATC point of view.( But in some cases they really help. )
Also a loss of legal separation minimum occurs as a consequence of RAs is also possible.
Last info ; the strike in France were limited to Orly and Paris ACC.
Reims was not involved.
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The SWISS crew followed the system’s instructions and put distance between the two aircraft.
The KLM pilot, after spotting the Swiss a/c visually, decided to make a sharp left turn to avoid the a/c.
It was not clear whether the 300 mt was vertically or horizontally.
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Is that sensationalist?
Looks like a straightforward factual report. In fact mentions many things such as TCAS that sensationalism will ignore.
Insignifant perhaps (depends on what you know about really happened) but is otherwise an innocuous 'yesterday it was very rainy' story pumped into the newswires.
Looks like a straightforward factual report. In fact mentions many things such as TCAS that sensationalism will ignore.
Insignifant perhaps (depends on what you know about really happened) but is otherwise an innocuous 'yesterday it was very rainy' story pumped into the newswires.
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Sorry, I did not mention that the original quote came from SWISS, not from the medias, who were obviously not aware of the incident, at least not in Switzerland.
Media sensation again ..
