BA - the actual announcement
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People are missing the point here. It is not BA which is to fault here having such favourable conditions for employees. Sadly like in so many cases, it is the abuse of a system by a minority that spoil it for everyone else.
BA provides the gold standard for employment conditions and what must be changed is the culture that people feel they can abuse the system, rather than changing the system so that it is somehow "up to date".
BA provides the gold standard for employment conditions and what must be changed is the culture that people feel they can abuse the system, rather than changing the system so that it is somehow "up to date".
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HZ123 - You cannot blame the dispatchers and the Overtime is only there because there is more flying than before but less staff.
I think you're jealous and I imagine you're either a Manager or aspire to be a Manager or perhaps failed to become a dispatcher yourself.
I was in Waterside when I saw a woman sobbing, a few people were trying to comfort her, when I ask if she upset about the 'Business Plan' annoucements, she said ' I'm not upset about that - Waitrose have just sold the last bag of Watercress'.
I think you're jealous and I imagine you're either a Manager or aspire to be a Manager or perhaps failed to become a dispatcher yourself.
I was in Waterside when I saw a woman sobbing, a few people were trying to comfort her, when I ask if she upset about the 'Business Plan' annoucements, she said ' I'm not upset about that - Waitrose have just sold the last bag of Watercress'.
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Have to agree with 7E7 there are far to many staff taking full advantage. Darkstar; BA staff suffer upset very easily and have little tolerance to the poor service provided by supermarkets.
He is due back at work next week, and so has enjoyed 8 weeks off sick on full pay
I "enjoyed" mine for a lot longer than 8 weeks
Had a great time, couldn't walk, uncontrollable bowls, utter agony during a sneezing/coughing session. Oh yes what fun I had.
Just because your company treats you like sh1t doesn't make it right.
The sickness benefits "enjoyed" by BA staff are there for a reason, it keeps many of us in a company that pays below market rate (well, in engineering it does anyway). That along with staff travel and pension keep the bottom line (wages) down.
Also, if you decide to dump people that suffer with work related injuries, especially staff that you have spent many years/£s training then you will soon lose them all. Try "costing" that in to your business plan.
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The problem is that at BA you can be off sick without anyone checking up. All you have to do on returning is fill in a form to say you were off sick. No details about why.
There are checks which are triggered at a certain level and staff have become wise to these levels, keeping sick leave to a level just below the trigger point.
It's a hard one to solve, because any solution will need resourcing to run it (e.g. people with the right skills, not someone without a role drafted in) and it'll have to be done in a way that it helps those with real health problems while catching the abusers.
Mark.
There are checks which are triggered at a certain level and staff have become wise to these levels, keeping sick leave to a level just below the trigger point.
It's a hard one to solve, because any solution will need resourcing to run it (e.g. people with the right skills, not someone without a role drafted in) and it'll have to be done in a way that it helps those with real health problems while catching the abusers.
Mark.
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Surely another tranch of managers could solve this problem or those that in situ should manage.
Joking aside I have been with BA since the 80's and discipline was far better then than now. That is assuming you can find any discipline now?
Joking aside I have been with BA since the 80's and discipline was far better then than now. That is assuming you can find any discipline now?
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In any business there are those who take advantage of the self-certifying (under 7 days) for sickness. However in BA Engineering, the computer will flag up someone who shows a tendency for excessive instances of illness. It is then up to his shift manager( or equivalent) to check it out.
I can only assume cessna 1 plate that you are not afflicted with back problems, or you might be a little more sympathetic.
I can only assume cessna 1 plate that you are not afflicted with back problems, or you might be a little more sympathetic.
