Easy slips in AMS ?
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Dutch radio said this morning they hit a lamp post while taxiing. No mention of rwy being closed, but the press isn't too hot on reporting these things properly. Aircraft was damaged, no news about the lamp post though.
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Gerard
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Gerard
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There's a picture of the wing in question on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!: G-EZJM's wing - it certainly hit something with a bit of force! With a bit of luck it might have been one of those pesky barrel organ things!!
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From: Ballymun
AMS and its ultra smooth new taxiways were a bit slippy alright yesterday, preventing the usual 30kt taxy speeds miles out into the countryside for 36L! And now we have to go all the way round to Z1 as well! 
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Schiphol was really slippery last night, really bad weather most of the day on and off.
The new taxi ways are as you say smooth and very slippery at times.
Just an unfortunate one there skip, hope they don't give you to much grief for it.
The new taxi ways are as you say smooth and very slippery at times.
Just an unfortunate one there skip, hope they don't give you to much grief for it.
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From: OMDB
sobelena,
i don't often defend the company I work for, but your observations concerning taxi speed are verging on libel.
Maximum taxi speed on straight taxiways ( off apron) 25 kts
Maximum -"- -"- -"- aprons 10 kts
Flidras event 28 kts(ish)
we are all human and accidents happens, so give the crew a break!
i don't often defend the company I work for, but your observations concerning taxi speed are verging on libel.
Maximum taxi speed on straight taxiways ( off apron) 25 kts
Maximum -"- -"- -"- aprons 10 kts
Flidras event 28 kts(ish)
we are all human and accidents happens, so give the crew a break!
Last edited by kennedy; 26th December 2003 at 21:36.
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Sobelena,
There is only one LCA renowned for high speed taxying and arrivals, and it's not EZY. If you want to have a pop at any outfit, then fair enough, but make sure you have the facts right, and also bear in mind that a company's attitude might not reflect the attitude of everyone within that company.
There is only one LCA renowned for high speed taxying and arrivals, and it's not EZY. If you want to have a pop at any outfit, then fair enough, but make sure you have the facts right, and also bear in mind that a company's attitude might not reflect the attitude of everyone within that company.
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First of all I did not pretend to submit any facts. I submitted a thought and a personal observation! Now, for arguments sake, throwing max (dry!!!) taxispeeds and Flidras at me doesn't for one moment detract from the fact that they may (I say may ) have been going a little too fast in the prevailing conditions . Did anyone else get caught out around the same time?
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From: Cheshire
Doh...
I feel sorry for the guy.
That dreaded "rumble" from the nose gear as it breaks traction is a sound that will haunt you for a long time...especially when it's follwed by *crunch*.
Maybe it's time they started putting directional treads on the NLG?
That dreaded "rumble" from the nose gear as it breaks traction is a sound that will haunt you for a long time...especially when it's follwed by *crunch*.
Maybe it's time they started putting directional treads on the NLG?
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From: Zummerset
It looks like the easy 733 hit a bloody great big lamp post en route from the Polderbaan (18R/36L) to the main terminal. Said lamp post was on its side today.
I can't comment on whether he was going too fast or the weather was inclement at AMS last night...I wasn't there. However, the AMS ATIS always adds the comments "all aprons and taxiways slippery spots" when there is any chance of it being a bit mucky.
It looks like one of those awkward things that happens. The tea and biscuits session will no doubt be interesting but we must wait for the official report.
I have to say, as a regular traveller on easy (I work for a high cost airline at AMS), they seem to taxi at a sensible speed. Obviously, something went wrong last night, but we will find out in due course unless someone involved chooses to put us in the picture, on this forum.
I can't comment on whether he was going too fast or the weather was inclement at AMS last night...I wasn't there. However, the AMS ATIS always adds the comments "all aprons and taxiways slippery spots" when there is any chance of it being a bit mucky.
It looks like one of those awkward things that happens. The tea and biscuits session will no doubt be interesting but we must wait for the official report.
I have to say, as a regular traveller on easy (I work for a high cost airline at AMS), they seem to taxi at a sensible speed. Obviously, something went wrong last night, but we will find out in due course unless someone involved chooses to put us in the picture, on this forum.
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From: Suitcase
Let's hope this incident will be attributed to unexpected black ice on the taxi way. Otherwise I feel for the crew involved. The so-called "no-blame culture" in easyJet does definitely not apply to its pilots. If there is anything that the company can blame the pilots for in a case like this, the likelyhood of their dismissal is great.
The idea of learning from situations like this and not trying to find a scapegoat is not generally the way easyJet operates.
The idea of learning from situations like this and not trying to find a scapegoat is not generally the way easyJet operates.
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So there won't be any problems with the 'approachable senior management team' being 'approached' about the fatigue concerns expressed elsewhere on PPRuNe then?