Aircraft Cleaning
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reminds me of a story from Canada??? and an "OutBack" style Aircraft being flown back to base without passengers ..... one of the two pilots went back to sweep up ..... seems the procedure was to sweep mud etc up close to a Doorway and pop the door for a second ...... well I won't go into further detail but the remaining pilot had a very distressing story to tell when he landed alone !!!! ...... its all in an official report somewhere .....
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Some of you people need to get your heads out of you arses and realise you are part of a team that needs to work together. Some of the posts have hit spot on in that IF you have the time then go and work with your TEAM.
I can guess the age and employer of some of the dissenting, "I'm the pilot, I don't do that menial thing" posters.
I can guess the age and employer of some of the dissenting, "I'm the pilot, I don't do that menial thing" posters.
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Flew on Ryanair this afternoon and passengers were told 'Please take your rubbish with you as we are on a 25minute turnround'
Sounded like a good idea - but it doesn't work on buses or trains either. There are some pax who who forget that the only service they have bought with their ticket money is safe transportation to destination, not for somebody to clear up after them.
Sounded like a good idea - but it doesn't work on buses or trains either. There are some pax who who forget that the only service they have bought with their ticket money is safe transportation to destination, not for somebody to clear up after them.
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i agree
at the end of the day if the Capt/Fo help out this will keep CC1/2 happy....
if there happy they wont upset the catering team
who inturn wont upset the dispatcher
who dosent upset load control
who wont bite the head off OPs when they call for times
and because ops are still happy crewing will stay happy
thus ensuring when the crew return they dont get "s'crew'd"
of course this will only ever happen in a perfect world
but we can live in hope
WX
at the end of the day if the Capt/Fo help out this will keep CC1/2 happy....
if there happy they wont upset the catering team
who inturn wont upset the dispatcher
who dosent upset load control
who wont bite the head off OPs when they call for times
and because ops are still happy crewing will stay happy
thus ensuring when the crew return they dont get "s'crew'd"
of course this will only ever happen in a perfect world
but we can live in hope
WX
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Well what a load of rubbish, "head out of arses" -- "good crm" !
If you want to clean the cabin why not go and have a word with the chief pilot, i'm sure he can arrange this for you, maybe starting as a temp !
Those of you who are advocating this practice are accountants dreams' - maybe you should let the CC negotiate your next pay rise !
If you want to clean the cabin why not go and have a word with the chief pilot, i'm sure he can arrange this for you, maybe starting as a temp !
Those of you who are advocating this practice are accountants dreams' - maybe you should let the CC negotiate your next pay rise !
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Having worked in a not dissimilar environment, I can categorically state that those captains who were willing (and able) to muck in with the crew for the benefit of the operation were more highly regarded (and hence approachable) than those who did not. It is a simple psychological truth that shared experience brings a team together. The military recognise this, why can certain members of the aviation community not?
To pre-empt those who would wish I wind my neck in, please examine your own relationships with your crew and reflect on the nature of the formal and informal communication you have with them. Leading by example is one of the most effective management techniques, and can result in greater loyalty and motivation.
To pre-empt those who would wish I wind my neck in, please examine your own relationships with your crew and reflect on the nature of the formal and informal communication you have with them. Leading by example is one of the most effective management techniques, and can result in greater loyalty and motivation.