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[Paterbrat]

Well I certainly give him credit for being as subtle and incredibly persistant as a fly round a piece of horse manure that he himself proudly produced. About as anoying and I long for a f#ing great fly swat.

[Grandpa]

Special thread for you...?

As it seems your first and great ground for posting on this thread, my dear Paterbrat, is to indulge into the kind of scatology that usually children give up when they leave kindergarten, may I suggest....

....That you create, operate, moderate, and in one word manage a new, special, great, full of flavour thread, exclusively dedicated to your love for ****, poop, fart, and everything that goes along.

...Or there is another solution: consult a specialist, enter in psychanalysis, talk about your disease with Freudian therapist, and try to escape from your anal age !

For sure it's expensive my dear Paterbrat!

Do you want I call Ppruners for a contribution to a charity fund which could help you to pay for your admission in the adult club?

Don't go down the tubes Paterbrat, move your arse, and in a jiffy you are a real man.

[wbryce]

I believe the captain is not responsible for Stowaways. They run the risk, but i beleive the people doing it doesn't realise there more or less in a suicidal attempt.

But i also believe this problem needs to be stamped out, if someone can run up into a planes wheel well at night, this is not stopping a terrorist with a block of C4 doing the same.

IMO its a major security issue.

Someone mentioned cameras in the wheel well, i too believe this is too much work for the pilots.

I believe another system as in a sensoring system with a warning system in the cockpit could be enough for the pilot to forget about this issue until the warning takes place.

[Rhodie]

360 degrees

Seems to be getting a bit personal here....

Grandpa - you were a bit taken aback initially at the replies, but seemed to counter with a reasonable argument albeit in favour, of course, of your point of view.

The great thing about this forum - and why it works so well, all around the world, is because it allows for OTHER views than those of the originator / author.

So, just because it has now been pretty well discussed and PROVED that video cameras are NOT the solution - hey, my pax wouldn't want me watching movies on take-off - would you..? - then may I suggest you deal with it, get over it and move on.....

All the counter arguments are valid, from size, weight, cost, clarity, work-load, garbage etc. I think the legal aspect might be a whole new kettle of smelly stuff - just think - Capt' MISSES young Moodley climbing in - what then - is he guilty of manslaughter...

Grandpa - methinks you sell video cameras for a living - sorry, try the shopping channel...

R

[Paterbrat]

Well well, it appears Grandpa that advancing years have dimmed the old peepers in addition to inducing reluctance to take anyone elses advice. I had in fact already contributed on page two and concurred that there indeed was a point to answer with regard to security, you obviously missed that one, but then a number of studied replies from more serious contributors had also been brushed airily aside by you, I would conclude from this that your myopia extends to anything that does not fit in with your concept of how the world and all that is in it should function. You are however sharply attuned to anything that might smack of... shock horror, gasp RACISM or anything remotely un PC. Your starting sentiment seemed indeed to imply that the actions of the pilots of the AF flight were inhuman. The subject is a serious one, a number of answers were put forward, you however continued to punish a deceased equine. Regretfully I placed you in the proximity of manure and likened you to a persisitant insect, that at least appeared to catch your attention. PC it may not have been, scatalogical it regretfully was, the message however seems to have quite passed high above you, a problem, which, like that of stowaways we will all have regretfully to continue to struggle with in this sadly imperfect world we inhabit... with you.

[davethelimey]

Dear all: Please accept my apologies for what is going to be a partisan and semantic post.

Dear Grandpa: A few points, mainly of history, I wish to respectfully make.

1. Calling people "my dear" is patronising, and makes you sound like you fell out of an Oscar Wilde novel.

2. Since this is a largely technical forum, populated mostly with professionals (which I am admittedly not), I should not be surprised that you didn't feel any "humanity" flowing through the answers. You asked a technical question and received a technical answer. Don't be surprised that no-one's heart started bleeding.

3. The Nuremberg trials have been extremely well translated into English, and I thus cannot imagine from whence your horrendously mangled approximation of a judge's statement came. Suffice it to say that nothing here resembles racism, only pragmatism (i.e. climb into a wheel-bay and you'll get what's coming to you. Physics is remarkably colour blind).

[hobie]

another one for you Dave ......

quote ..... "Pray tell me ..... etc etc "

drives me up the wall but everyone loves the guy who frequently uses the above to start a post .....