BA plane in near-miss
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BA plane in near-miss
From the BBC News website:
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BA plane in near-miss
British Airways has confirmed that one of its Boeing 777 planes was involved in a near-miss in the skies over Hertfordshire on Monday.
BA Flight 202 from Detroit to Heathrow was flying over the county when the near-miss happened.
It is reported that an American plane was ordered to descend by flight controllers.
This brought it close enough to trigger the Traffic Alert and Collision Avoiding System on the flight deck of the BA jet.
The BA plane then climbed to avoid an accident.
British Airways says an air safety report has been filed and the incident will be investigated by the authorities.
A spokesman for BA said the planes were at least a mile-and-a-half apart.
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BA plane in near-miss
British Airways has confirmed that one of its Boeing 777 planes was involved in a near-miss in the skies over Hertfordshire on Monday.
BA Flight 202 from Detroit to Heathrow was flying over the county when the near-miss happened.
It is reported that an American plane was ordered to descend by flight controllers.
This brought it close enough to trigger the Traffic Alert and Collision Avoiding System on the flight deck of the BA jet.
The BA plane then climbed to avoid an accident.
British Airways says an air safety report has been filed and the incident will be investigated by the authorities.
A spokesman for BA said the planes were at least a mile-and-a-half apart.
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Again the press seems to have its terminology mixed up. Surely a "near-miss" means a collision. It should properly say "near collision". It would be too much to expect them to use the correct term "airprox".
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Bigmac... I know what you mean, and I have no axe to grind for the press, but, "near miss" is a term used in this way in other contexts - not just aviation. To quote Collins English Dictionary:
"near miss: in incident in which two vehicles narrowly avoid collision."
It's a funny old language,
Regards, ND
"near miss: in incident in which two vehicles narrowly avoid collision."
It's a funny old language,
Regards, ND
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BA in near miss drama with Air Force 1!
"Did I just see Air Force 1" said the mysterious BA captain, moments before his aircraft swerved to the right to avoid a collision.
Luckily for all aboard the BA Airbus 777-800 Tristar, it was only Gulfstream 5, a much smaller jet & probably the reason why everyone survived this "Terror in the Sky"!! TM
"Did I just see Air Force 1" said the mysterious BA captain, moments before his aircraft swerved to the right to avoid a collision.
Luckily for all aboard the BA Airbus 777-800 Tristar, it was only Gulfstream 5, a much smaller jet & probably the reason why everyone survived this "Terror in the Sky"!! TM
"The INTRODUCER"
So just to understand your point of view, BBC reports in straightforward, unexcitable terms something of moderate public interest that actually happened. This is not good enough for you apparently. In fact you are now reduced to having to take the p---out of hypothetical headlines that nobody has actually written. Very impressive.
How about you stick to flying aeroplanes and we stick to reporting stories, since we all seem to be about as good as each other at what we do.
How about you stick to flying aeroplanes and we stick to reporting stories, since we all seem to be about as good as each other at what we do.
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So just to understand your point of view, BBC reports in straightforward, unexcitable terms something of moderate public interest that actually happened. This is not good enough for you apparently. In fact you are now reduced to having to take the p---out of hypothetical headlines that nobody has actually written.
And to think that just for once, this was the one instance that a topic was not sensationalistically exploited! Oh well! I guess some people are never satisfied.
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Ah, using my incredible powers of deduction, well, and the comment
"How about you stick to flying aeroplanes and we stick to reporting stories, since we all seem to be about as good as each other at what we do."
I must assume, dear Watson, that Master Algy is a journalist...
(he says, as he reads the warning at the bottom of the page - something about
"In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.,")
Well, IT WORKED...!!
Algy, kind Sir - I AM a pilot - that's why I'm on this site and not making comments on Reuters or CNN or The Times of wherever...
and I think I'll STICK to MY site...
Hey, we got a reaction - too cool.....
"How about you stick to flying aeroplanes and we stick to reporting stories, since we all seem to be about as good as each other at what we do."
I must assume, dear Watson, that Master Algy is a journalist...
(he says, as he reads the warning at the bottom of the page - something about
"In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.,")
Well, IT WORKED...!!
Algy, kind Sir - I AM a pilot - that's why I'm on this site and not making comments on Reuters or CNN or The Times of wherever...
and I think I'll STICK to MY site...
Hey, we got a reaction - too cool.....
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How about you stick to flying aeroplanes and we stick to reporting stories, since we all seem to be about as good as each other at what we do.
Right from the start, I ain't a pilot, I'm a controller. And unfortunately as part of out terms of employment we don't have the luxury of being able to contact the media regarding ANYTHING that has been reported. And from personal experience, what is recounted by the media is just pure sensationalism, with a loose interpretation of the fact to make the story juicy (sexing up?) I was not long valid when I saw a story in the paper regarding a go-around, a perfectly safe and standard procedure used at every airport in the world if it is deemed the landing aircraft will not be able to complete an approach and land safely. However, the newspaper report was sensationalism to the extreme (How do I know? I was controlling when it happened). And even recently, the BBC's initial report on the DHL aircraft that was hit by a missile was incorrect. According to them, one of the engines had been hit, and blah, blah, blah. Absolute bollocks.
So, you have the audacity to imply that it "is not good enough for you apparently". Have we touched a nerve here? Was it you that gained this "scoop", reporting it with relish, waving your "the public has the right to know" banner high. The public has the right to know........THE FULL STORY. But as I have mentioned, those involved cannot provide their side.
How about you stick to reporting stories, and do us all a favour and stop trawling this forum for tid-bits, obviously trying to get that all important scoop. Seen it before. "Unconfirmed cources have said..................".
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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Nice going gents!
Isn't it about time someone moved this thread to jetblast?
It certainly is neither Rumours nor News the fact that some folks in here have a general (not unfounded, mind you) thing about journos. Besides that however, it is certainly almost always not prudent to generalise.
Please get a grip.
Isn't it about time someone moved this thread to jetblast?
It certainly is neither Rumours nor News the fact that some folks in here have a general (not unfounded, mind you) thing about journos. Besides that however, it is certainly almost always not prudent to generalise.
Please get a grip.
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I think this is yet another incident that has happened that then gets VERY misreported as usual by knowledgeless Media types, blown therefore out of all preportion by the public, and once again ATC/Aviation is a terrible industry.
Jerricho, like many ATCO's, has a very valid reason for not liking news types, it would be nice to see a fair and concicive report one day taken from all angles and opinions, but I was always a dreamer, and why do they have to know anyhow? NOTHING HAPPENNED
Jerricho, like many ATCO's, has a very valid reason for not liking news types, it would be nice to see a fair and concicive report one day taken from all angles and opinions, but I was always a dreamer, and why do they have to know anyhow? NOTHING HAPPENNED
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Air Transport Intelligence, Jerricho, which is precisely what your posts are not demonstrating at the moment.
As a stakeholder in this matter, living in a part of Herts frequently overflown by airliners, I am pleased that the BBC reported this matter.
It was, in my opinion, a responsible article - even the last sentence quoted was to quote a BA spokesperson saying that the aircraft never got within 1.5 miles - sensationalist? I don't think so.
As for your comment 5 Miles baby that 'nothing happened', does that mean that we should not be concerned?
So we got away with this one
That doesn't mean that nothing happened, it means there was no crash - don't confuse the effect with the causation.
Having had a 747 crash close enough to my house a few years ago, I have seen the after effects and I can assure you that it is not pretty.
As a stakeholder in this matter, living in a part of Herts frequently overflown by airliners, I am pleased that the BBC reported this matter.
It was, in my opinion, a responsible article - even the last sentence quoted was to quote a BA spokesperson saying that the aircraft never got within 1.5 miles - sensationalist? I don't think so.
As for your comment 5 Miles baby that 'nothing happened', does that mean that we should not be concerned?
So we got away with this one
That doesn't mean that nothing happened, it means there was no crash - don't confuse the effect with the causation.Having had a 747 crash close enough to my house a few years ago, I have seen the after effects and I can assure you that it is not pretty.