BA777 at DUB
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BA777 at DUB
Saw a BA 777 land at DUB on Monday at approx 1430 hrs. Great activity from the fire service, and an escort to a remote stand. Ba 777s never normally visit DUB. Anyone know what happened?
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As far as I know, engine problem.
BA flew another 777 aircraft in on Tuesday to continue the flight (LHR-ORD I believe), and the original is still on the North Apron with the No 2 engine covers open as of Wednesday evening.
BA flew another 777 aircraft in on Tuesday to continue the flight (LHR-ORD I believe), and the original is still on the North Apron with the No 2 engine covers open as of Wednesday evening.
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But does it accord with the statistical failure rates per 1000 flying hours assumed for ETOPS?
'4 engines for long range ops'? Perhaps Sir RB has a point and will note ba's 777 failure rate when he comes to a decision regarding his next fleet acquisitions?
'4 engines for long range ops'? Perhaps Sir RB has a point and will note ba's 777 failure rate when he comes to a decision regarding his next fleet acquisitions?
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Gordon,
Ayrshire Scotland, a lovely part of the world. I spent a couple of weeks training on a 707 at Prestwick in 1962, staying at the Links Hotel. Got introduced to Scottish Heavy and some grand wee lassies! Oh, the memories.
Ayrshire Scotland, a lovely part of the world. I spent a couple of weeks training on a 707 at Prestwick in 1962, staying at the Links Hotel. Got introduced to Scottish Heavy and some grand wee lassies! Oh, the memories.
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Ayrshire Scotland, a lovely part of the world. I spent a couple of weeks training on a 707 at Prestwick in 1962, staying at the Links Hotel. Got introduced to Scottish Heavy and some grand wee lassies! Oh, the memories.
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By the way, just saw a BA 777 in Memphis (MEM) three days ago. Maybe the first one to land there. The weather in DFW (Texas) had been bad, which motivated someone to choose MEM as the divert airport, instead of Little Rock (LIT) or Nashville (BNA).
Can a BA Captain always override their Dispatcher's choice of a divert airport (with no paperwork or debrief needed later etc), as long as things go well and the plane can get serviced/refueled/connected to a high jetway?
Can a BA Captain always override their Dispatcher's choice of a divert airport (with no paperwork or debrief needed later etc), as long as things go well and the plane can get serviced/refueled/connected to a high jetway?
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Ignition Overide
There is a huge difference in operating philosophy here. UK airlines do not have a dispatcher/flight following system as US airlines do. Therefore all decisions when airborne are the resposibility of the flight crew. When a divertion is nescessary, if fuel/time is short, then an alternate can be used without reference to the company. If more time is available then BA ops would be contacted either locally or in LHR for a discussion about the most suitable course of action.
In the case of MEM/LIT I would choose Elvis over Bill every time....
There is a huge difference in operating philosophy here. UK airlines do not have a dispatcher/flight following system as US airlines do. Therefore all decisions when airborne are the resposibility of the flight crew. When a divertion is nescessary, if fuel/time is short, then an alternate can be used without reference to the company. If more time is available then BA ops would be contacted either locally or in LHR for a discussion about the most suitable course of action.
In the case of MEM/LIT I would choose Elvis over Bill every time....
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BEagle,
Shame,then,that Sir RB has just done a deal for a load of 777's!!!
'4 engines for long range ops'? Perhaps Sir RB has a point and will note ba's 777 failure rate when he comes to a decision regarding his next fleet acquisitions?
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From: err, *******, we have a problem
I diverted a BA 777 into Memphis in 1999... was due to the complete closure of DFW airspace due to thunderstorm activity, and San Antonio and Houston (our usual alternates) being slap-bang in the path of the oncoming weather. The skipper had headed off to Heathrow instead of Gatwick, so was late for report, and as the operating Co-pilot, seeing the magic four letters TSRA on an American TAF (translates as "chaos possible, cover your ass") I'd tanked about 8 tonnes over the flight-plan figure, so we were always comfortable for fuel.
The full tale is long, and very interesting, but effectively a lot of favours were called in that night by BA staff at Dallas, and we effected a recovery to DFW right on the trailing edge of Flight Time Limitations. I think we were the first 777 Memphis had seen, and certainly the US Customs were decidedly less than helpful, refusing to allow any crew-member off the aircraft to carry out a walkround until the folly of that position was pointed out.
The full tale is long, and very interesting, but effectively a lot of favours were called in that night by BA staff at Dallas, and we effected a recovery to DFW right on the trailing edge of Flight Time Limitations. I think we were the first 777 Memphis had seen, and certainly the US Customs were decidedly less than helpful, refusing to allow any crew-member off the aircraft to carry out a walkround until the folly of that position was pointed out.
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ETOPS
Let me word it a slightly different way.
Would you rather overnight in KMEM or KLIT. I suppose you could go to Rapid City South Dakota - KRAP
Let me word it a slightly different way.
Would you rather overnight in KMEM or KLIT. I suppose you could go to Rapid City South Dakota - KRAP
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