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Old 4th Jun 2001, 05:35
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I hear that Aer Lingus are actually going to break their traditonal hiring of non nationals and actually look at their own back yard for some pilots....
Seems to be a new thing for them to do
 
Old 4th Jun 2001, 17:45
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Contrary to EU law ?..

Nice Treaty ballot ?..
 
Old 4th Jun 2001, 21:27
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you still upset? Get over it.
 
Old 4th Jun 2001, 23:20
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Having lived and worked in Ireland for over 2 years, I have found that there sure is a very anti-foreigner attitude, particularly directed towards the Brits. It's not just me, many collegues feel the same way and have left as a result. Anyway, most foreigners couldn't afford a house in Dublin anyway, so, "Good luck" to them!
 
Old 4th Jun 2001, 23:27
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Being from the Emerald Isle myself Erik I'm afraid you've got a point, which is a bit of a shame considering how many Irish have migrated to England, America or whatever. They migrated for economic reasons, to find work and make a new life, yet now that Ireland is booming there is a reluctance to accept things going the other way, as it surely will when a country is newly prosperous.
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 00:18
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I wonder if they could keep up this policy if they are bought by BA?
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 01:54
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I was at work today chatting to a couple of the 'drivers' and from the way they were bemoaning their fate EI need all the pilots they need.I don't think EI can afford to be picky about nationality when they are so short on crews. But considering some of the bizare decisions made by EI senior managment who knows what they'll do
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 02:20
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Can you imagine the outrage in the media if, for example, BA made it policy not to hire Irish citizens???

Utter outrage, after all, that would be racist!
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 02:35
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Bramble there is by no means a pilot shortage in EI, they dont even have enough spaces for returning cadets.
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 02:41
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Now, from what I have heard the whole company is in disarray (from current drivers), so how many Brits would want to decamp there anyway?

Not hiring Brits, no problem. My opinion anyway.

Oh, and everyone here slags them for paying peanuts , so again why would you want to work for them and get paid sweet f.a. in a weaker currency than our own.

At least people won't have to hear the twaddle from a certain Captain Mc something over there in their recruitment department.

Good luck to them, cos they'll be back when they've made a mess of it all in a while....
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 03:20
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Yes indeed. Having worked for them I agree there is an anti-foreign attitude in Aer Lingus. This comes from a minority of pilots but it is still a significant amount. It is also particularly directed at the guys from the UK. Looks like the company is in severe trouble anyway. Turning in such small profit in what is Ireland's biggest boom time ever. I think a trade sell off is very likely. Good Luck people!!
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 05:23
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Erik and High and Fast. I have worked in the U.K. and being Irish, I got the 2rd class citizen attitude, constantly, in the Queens Isle, for long enough. But, you just get on with it, and move on and move up!!
Nobody has real time for people with that attitude.
Maybe when BA take over, things will get better?
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 11:03
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Do you think they would consider selling it to RyanAir? At least it would stay in Irish hands and maybe it would turn a profit if it was run by people who know how to make money.
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 13:03
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Dublin Flyer - Great Idea, "Ryan Aer" would would work, but the colour scheme, may be a bit naff.

But you know what they say about "Blue and Green"!

 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 13:32
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The Public Enterprise Minister is meeting with IMPACT this evening
following a request from the union. Mary O'Rourke is to discuss recent
speculation about the future sale of the airline. SIPTU has been invited to
that meeting but National Industrial Secretary Noel Dowling is unsure, as
of yet, whether or not they will attend. He says that he will meet with the
Central Executive this morning to discuss it.

Noel Dowling, SIPTU National Industrial Secretary, discusses the union's
issues at Aer Lingus
http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0605/mor...gireland7A.ram
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 13:50
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I rang up to enquire about their sponsorship program last year. They asked me where I live and when I told them, their immediate response was 'can't you find an airline in England to fly for'.

Having said that though, its no worse than Quantas saying Australians only, or American Carriers specifying Americans only. After all, Eire is a foreign country.
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 15:16
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Err no. Ireland is in the EU and its completely illegal to discriminate against other EU citizens in this way. There's no such law in the USA or Australia. Imagine the outrage if we decided to send all the Irish back from the UK!! Now the French, that would be a different matter!!
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 16:04
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Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean it in that sense. I meant that Aer Lingus is an Irish airline and I guess they want Irish people fronting it. Whatever the EU says, I can understand, however frustrating it is for the rest of us, what they are saying.

 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 17:22
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Aer Lingus currently employs pilots from:

Holland
France
Norway
UK (England, Scotland, N.Ireland)
Finland
Australia
New Zealand
USA
Lebanon

...probably others I'm not aware of, and more than one of each I might add. The more the merrier!
They also employ lot's of Paddies.

'Fraid you've picked the wrong target to accuse of racism. In fact I think you all misunderstood the origintor of the threads point...he's complaining 'cos he (a Paddy) didn't get hired...just because he's a paddy!! He obviously feels that all he (and the other Irish applicants) should have to do is turn up!

Well if that ain't racism, what is?

As far as I've seen no pilot in ALT 'dislikes' foreigners. Just as long as they can do their job and are good heads, that's good enough for the vast majority.



[This message has been edited by CaptSensible (edited 05 June 2001).]
 
Old 5th Jun 2001, 17:36
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And to put more weight to Capt S argument... EI after the collapse of TLA hired in total... wait for it 0 pilots of the 25 natoinalities working in TLA... obviously TLA had a racist problem...NOT. Ask any of the 25 groups what they thought of working with the "Paddys" as so lovingly called by our neighbours. We even had a lot of English Scottish and Northern Irish and they stayed till they got their experience and moved on barr a few good men.
 


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