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mickjoebill 25th November 2022 21:52

Starlink for helicopters?
 
Years ago we investigated phased array antennas on the tailboom as an alternative to microwave links in the boon docks.
The rotors did not have a serious effect on reception.
These guys have installed one of the new Starlink dishes which are designed for moving vehicles, in competitors vehicles in a desert rally.

The concept looks promising for rotary applications.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4461...ibextid=Nif5oz

rrekn 25th November 2022 22:27

Phase Array on the tail boom, interesting. How far did you get?

mickjoebill 26th November 2022 10:03

Sorry for linking to a closed group.

I was drawn to a poster who says they made a ruggedised mount for the new High Performance In-Motion Dish and they tested "on a few racecars at the Baja 1000"
They live streamed video.

Wow.

This website has pictures of the Starlink high performance antenna on a race vehicle. They have commercialised the mounting fixture.
https://star-mountsystems.com/products/quick-release-mount-for-starlink-high-performance-in-motion-dish

In respect to a tail mount, having developed a derigable gimbal nosemount for the AS350, I was keen to investigate using BGAN to live link SD video in very remote areas. The idea was to make a flyaway kit of a bracket a gimbal and means to transmit.

From the engineering perspective, there were no impossible hurdles for completing a tail boom mount. However, the Starlink antenna is larger.

I haven't investigated how Starlink frequencies are effected by the rotors, but preliminary ground testing of a Starlink antenna under a rotor is a simple procedure.

In respect to live video, that is always a tall order, although there may be significant improvements in buffering which could mitigate dropout,
I'd be investigating a novel multiple antenna solution rather than a auto tracking self pointing antenna as exists for air to ground microwave links.

I dropped the BGAN idea as 4G was becoming more widespread and also flyaway sat kit was reducing in size, a Scandanavian broadcaster had adapted one to stow on back seat of a R44.

Phased array is in use on commercial passenger aircraft and Starlink is also entering the field.
https://www.starlink.com/aviation
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Mjb


MikeNYC 9th February 2024 18:52

Bumping this thread as Starlink was recently flown on a few helicopters (AS350's and 355's) in support of filming. It appears to be the flat panel version mounted to the filming gimbal. Apparently it took coordination with Starlink to ease the speed restrictions with the service plan and hardware they had, but was otherwise successful.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a6ecf67941.png

retoocs 12th February 2024 04:36

One of the DERs we use is working on Starlink installation on commercial airlines.

mickjoebill 20th February 2024 06:47

That mounting bracket is, quite appropriately, $$$

MikeNYC 12th January 2025 16:52

Bumping this thread, as Starlink is now being seen deployed on ENG aircraft. There's a company called TT Aero that makes the mount, which attaches to an AFSP-1 (a standard gimbal mount for H125's).
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Dw&oe=6789DA34

farmpilot 14th April 2025 12:24

I'm struggling to find options for mounting to the AFSP-1, do you have any links?

MikeNYC 16th April 2025 00:40

Farmpilot - I don't think a website has launched for this. Will send you some contact info via DM. Some more info I've found below:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bryan...119898624-Xgw2
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co...ion_broadcast/

TTAero 16th April 2025 02:18

Starlink mount
 
I currently manufacture the mount for the As350 running meeker booms. I tried to share a pic here , but no luck. My partner in this handles sales and the electronic side. I designed and machine the components. You can contact me at [email protected] with any questions. Hope this helps.

Post Approved by Senior Pilot 👍

farmpilot 16th April 2025 08:32

Thanks very much Mike NYC

ORAC 1st August 2025 22:28

NEWS: SpaceX says a new @Starlink update means that the internet will keep working even if trees or other obstacles partially block your home’s view of the sky.

"As a Starlink terminal communicates with satellites overhead, it continuously builds a real-time obstruction map, allowing Starlink to dynamically understand its environment. With this information, it can proactively select the best and most stable connection. For dynamic obstructions, such as are encountered by mobile terminals, the system reactively switches in less than 1/10th of a second, allowing a connection to remain stable. The dynamic nature of Starlink combined with the many paths for the system to route traffic provide a high degree of resiliency in obstructed and changing environments.

Additionally, to help customers get the most out of their service, the Starlink app includes a built-in tool to preview the install location and guide customers to the best placement with the fewest obstructions. After setup, the Starlink app provides a live obstruction map that shows exactly where signal blockages are occurring and how they may affect your experience, so that users can make informed decisions about optimizing their installation. Starlink also measures uptime 10 times a second from every terminal, transparently reporting any outage that is longer than 1/10th of a second in the app. For well-installed, even partially obstructed terminals, this uptime is typically at the 99.9% level."

JulieAndrews 5th August 2025 21:12

Great news for what has been a traditionally difficult area for helicopter operations - if it’s true…….

Ted_Stryker 17th August 2025 08:12

Will send an email!


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