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Phoinix 1st April 2024 10:54

I must be getting old; can somebody please find the FAA TCDS for 412 EPX? I checked everything, all in vain.

JDJ 1st April 2024 12:03

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExte...dalOpened=true

- this is the PDF that comes up using "412EPX" in the "Keyword" field.

This is the search page I used:

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/TCDSMODEL...Keyword=412EPX


Phoinix 1st April 2024 12:17

Thank you! Got it!

chopper2004 13th June 2024 18:18

Heli Expo 2023 N412EPX demo
 
Thanks to Bell , managed to go flying in it twice so far Heli Expo 2023 in Atlanta (my pics below

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d39888f08e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0b5ccfe3f3.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9a93193abc.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a0aef70336.jpg

Smooth as anything, felt like a Huey,

cheers

chopper2004 13th June 2024 18:38

Heli expo 2024
 
Back for another flight in N412EPX in Anaheim this time from Fulerton Municipal Airport (as opposed to Angels Stadium in previous demo flights held at the show in Anaheim) back in Feb , And also had pleasure of seeing Ventura County Sheriff Department first a/c so my pics below.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d3c0957e4c.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9a2d2857c0.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....52877177ce.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....741f0b1d8d.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7db6e52d0b.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4db7d5006c.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b4d6b5169a.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cb892f5784.jpg

Also that same week, the a/c was delivered to new customers San Diego County Sheriff Department and San Bernardino Sheriff Department

https://investor.textron.com/news/ne...-/default.aspx

cheers

chopper2004 13th June 2024 18:43

Japan Coast Guard
 
Japan Coast Guard orders another pair of a/c

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/23...px-helicopters

cheers

hoistop 3rd September 2024 09:25

So, was this version added on EASA type certificate or not? Anyone?

Phoinix 3rd September 2024 10:11

Nope, and even the EPI is theory only.

gulliBell 4th September 2024 00:34

I just find it odd pimping up such an old model helicopter with the latest gadgets like that. The cockpit looks a bit like what's in the 429, right?

Tickle 4th September 2024 03:19


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11728515)
I just find it odd pimping up such an old model helicopter with the latest gadgets like that. The cockpit looks a bit like what's in the 429, right?

That's what I thought. It's obviously a proven workhorse with demand still there but these days it seems a little too small on the inside with that huge box in the middle of the cabin and being such a loud machine too.

PhlyingGuy 4th September 2024 15:13

The US Forestry Service loves it.

While it's not in demand as a HEMS machine and definitely not in the VIP world.... and even less now than ever for O&G.... when you don't need to carry many passengers, the EPX has great hot/high capability and is a proven, reliable workhorse. The AW139 and Airbus products can't say the same thing.

And yes, the displays on the EPI/EPX are the exact same displays on the 429.

Haligali 2nd November 2024 19:07

Hi

Any news about Bell 412 EPX?

FAA & EASA certified?

212man 2nd November 2024 21:20


Originally Posted by Haligali (Post 11761981)
Hi

Any news about Bell 412 EPX?

FAA & EASA certified?

Ask at the Bell stand in Amsterdam this week!

But, was there ever any intent to be certified? Not just in Japan and neighbours?

Haligali 2nd November 2024 22:09

Really I dont know! I saw somewhere on the internet that the Croatian police bought them two years ago!

chopper2004 3rd November 2024 01:47


Originally Posted by Haligali (Post 11762039)
Really I dont know! I saw somewhere on the internet that the Croatian police bought them two years ago!

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/21...sold-in-europe

and they should be delivered by now

cheers

Phoinix 6th November 2024 12:27


Originally Posted by PhlyingGuy (Post 11728849)
The US Forestry Service loves it.

While it's not in demand as a HEMS machine and definitely not in the VIP world.... and even less now than ever for O&G.... when you don't need to carry many passengers, the EPX has great hot/high capability and is a proven, reliable workhorse. The AW139 and Airbus products can't say the same thing.

And yes, the displays on the EPI/EPX are the exact same displays on the 429.

Nope... and yes, they can.


Originally Posted by Phoinix (Post 11541408)
HOGE MTOM @ ISA
H145D3: 8.955 ft (3.800 kg)
AW169EP: 11.500 ft (4.800 kg)
B412EPX: 8.200 ft (5.530 kg)

HOGE MTOM-100 kg @ ISA
H145D3: 10.815 ft (3.700 kg)
AW169EP: 12.000 ft (4.700 kg)
B412EPX: 9.000 ft (5.400 kg)

HOGE MTOM-100 kg @ ISA+20
H145D3: 8.570 ft (3.700 kg)
AW169EP: 8.400 ft (4.700 kg)
B412EPX: 5.100 ft (5.400 kg)

Sources: 169 RFM, 145/412 latest manufacturer data.


Phoinix 1st December 2024 11:22

412EPX is finally certified under EASA... TCDS, Issue 5, 28 Nov 2024

...a 9 passenger aircraft (limited by emergency exit requirements)
...5 minute take-off power, I thought they wanted to go 30 minutes?

212man 1st December 2024 13:24


Originally Posted by Phoinix (Post 11778623)
412EPX is finally certified under EASA... TCDS, Issue 5, 28 Nov 2024

...a 9 passenger aircraft (limited by emergency exit requirements)
...5 minute take-off power, I thought they wanted to go 30 minutes?

How can any 30 minutes rating be considered take off?

Phoinix 1st December 2024 13:38

H145, AW169, AW139… it’s not a problem… for other than legacy. Try intense HHO. 5 minutes might fall short sometimes.

212man 1st December 2024 16:29


Originally Posted by Phoinix (Post 11778699)
H145, AW169, AW139… it’s not a problem… for other than legacy. Try intense HHO. 5 minutes might fall short sometimes.

Probably needs a new title then.


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