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myassisgrass 1st September 2021 02:42

Captured Chinooks in Afghanistan
 
Recent media photos show captured CH-47s (Boeing 234s?) in non-military colours. Are they civilian owned and operated or military owned and operated or a mix of both?

Bksmithca 1st September 2021 03:06

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...stan-3dbzhflgk
if this is the image your referring to its not a Chinook it's a CH46 Sea Knight. Not seeing any markings and it may have belonged to the Afghanistan Air Force?

KiwiNedNZ 1st September 2021 03:10

They are Phrogs are were operated by Embassy Air aka Dept of State Air Wing.

reefrat 1st September 2021 04:01

Looks like a Vertol?

Nescafe 1st September 2021 04:29

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...in-afghanistan



The U.S. State Department has confirmed that seven CH-46E Sea Knight helicopters, also colloquially known as "Phrogs," belonging to its Air Wing have been rendered inoperable and abandoned in Afghanistan as part of the ongoing evacuation effort. This non-combatant evacuation operation, or NEO, could very well be the last major mission ever for any Sea Knight belonging to the U.S. government, with the State Department already in the process of divesting its entire fleet.
In addition, the Pentagon says that this NEO could be the second largest in American military history, the other being the evacuation of Americans and others from South Vietnam in 1975. As The War Zonehas already reported, there is evidence that at least one of the State Department's now-abandoned Sea Knights in Afghanistan, which it originally obtained second-hand from the U.S. Marine Corps, took part in both operations.
https://www.thedrive.com/content-b/m...jpg?quality=60
US ARMYA US State Department CH-46E Sea Knight with US civil registration code N38TU. There is evidence that points to the possibility that this helicopter, then in service with the US Marine Corps, took part in Operation Frequent Wind, the evacuation of Americans and others from South Vietnam in 1975, and then also helped get people from the US Embassy in Kabul to nearby Hamird Karzai International Airport on Aug. 15, 2021.
"The Department left seven CH-46 helicopters behind in Afghanistan which were rendered inoperable," a State Department official, speaking on background, told The War Zone. "These helicopters were already being phased out of the Department’s inventory and were slated for eventual destruction due to age and supportability issues."

KiwiNedNZ 1st September 2021 04:34

Reefrat - Phrog is a Vertol :)

krismiler 1st September 2021 05:27

The Iranians will probably get them and have them rebuilt in a few months. They have extensive capabilities in keeping aircraft from the1970s in serviceable flying condition. I would expect to see most, if not all of the former Afghan Airforce back in the air in IRIAF colors.

chopper2004 1st September 2021 05:47


Originally Posted by krismiler (Post 11104472)
The Iranians will probably get them and have them rebuilt in a few months. They have extensive capabilities in keeping aircraft from the1970s in serviceable flying condition. I would expect to see most, if not all of the former Afghan Airforce back in the air in IRIAF colors.

IIAF don’t need them tbh with what they have in their inventory ….

cheers

mickjoebill 1st September 2021 05:49

"captured"?

Mjb

AnglianAV8R 1st September 2021 08:29

You're watching a movie

gulliBell 1st September 2021 09:52

I bet Columbia wishes it could get its hands on them.

JoeCool88 1st September 2021 10:20

Once the Airworthiness Review Certificates are expired, the h/c are worthless for the Taliban, anyway :ok:

meleagertoo 1st September 2021 11:46

Why have these and the rest of the Afghan Air Force aircraft not been torched? Even if they are rendered 'unflyable' they've presented the Taliban with a vast amount of valuable spares and parts to swamp the world markets with, quite apart from the propaganda points they score by parading this vastly. And if the vast stores of spares remain intact what's to stop Iran od otheres offering support to fix them up again?

admiral ackbar 1st September 2021 12:04


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11104652)
Why have these and the rest of the Afghan Air Force aircraft not been torched? Even if they are rendered 'unflyable' they've presented the Taliban with a vast amount of valuable spares and parts to swamp the world markets with, quite apart from the propaganda points they score by parading this vastly. And if the vast stores of spares remain intact what's to stop Iran od otheres offering support to fix them up again?

Big chunk of the air force and pilots flew to Uzbekistan apparently
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/uzb...ay-11630315800

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JimEli 1st September 2021 14:21

"rendered inoperable"
How? Painting over the registration markings? Taking the doors and windows off? Took the keys?

Duck Pilot 1st September 2021 14:30


Originally Posted by JoeCool88 (Post 11104595)
Once the Airworthiness Review Certificates are expired, the h/c are worthless for the Taliban, anyway :ok:

And you recon the Taliban are going to recognise anything to do with airworthiness of the aircraft?

helicrazi 1st September 2021 14:35


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 11104727)
And you recon the Taliban are going to recognise anything to do with airworthiness of the aircraft?

Love it when sarcasm is totally missed

The Sultan 1st September 2021 14:37


Originally Posted by JimEli (Post 11104720)
"rendered inoperable"
How? Painting over the registration markings? Taking the doors and windows off? Took the keys?

For the 46's I've seen a shortage of hydraulic fluid will do nicely. On a 46 you know it is out of hydraulic fluid when it stops dripping on your head.

Duck Pilot 1st September 2021 14:48


Originally Posted by helicrazi (Post 11104730)
Love it when sarcasm is totally missed

Sarcasm missed? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion 🤡

SLFstu 1st September 2021 14:54


Originally Posted by JimEli (Post 11104720)
"rendered inoperable"
How? Painting over the registration markings? Taking the doors and windows off? Took the keys?

Easy as. Remove the dizzy cap. LOL.
Spose they cut the looms & removed the guts of the avionics. Oh and the wipers of course!
What an incredible loss of coin.
When the US military turned OFF the mains and sneaked out of Bagram Airfield in the middle of the night in early July without notifying their Afghan partners the local looters quickly followed.
The hundreds of abandoned armoured vehicles were a bit hard to sneak off with I'm guessing. And the keys were taken by the thoughtful departing troops.
https://apnews.com/article/bagram-af...251aaaa167e623

On the other hand it was nice of Uncle Joe to ensure the Taliban were gifted a fully working Kabul airport infrastructure at midnight on August 30.

PS. I'm just an old Aussie boomer, no skin in the game.


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