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212man 28th August 2020 12:40

B206 accident in Lagos 28/8/2020
 
Some sad news coming from Lagos: https://www.36ng.ng/2020/08/28/break...ding-in-lagos/

Two fatalities (both pilots).

N4565L 28th August 2020 13:24

Helicopter crashes into building in Lagos
 
Came down in Ikeja, Lagos, 2 dead, one in ICU. Possible a Bell 206 JetRanger (or derivative).

Source: Nigerian FlightDeck: https://nigerianflightdeck.com/helic...os-two-feared/

N4565L 28th August 2020 16:51

Helicopter crashes into building in Lagos
 
28AUG2020 Bell 206 JetRanger III, ex Pan African, crashed into residential area are of Ikeja (near Sheraton Hotel), Lagos, Nigeria earlier today. Two confirmed dead with one in hospital, critical. Believed to have been on photo shoot. RIP

N4565L 28th August 2020 17:07

B206 accident in Lagos 28/8/2020
 
Believed to be 5N-BQW, ex 5N-BES

N707ZS 28th August 2020 18:13

Interesting to see no fire in the photos or video.

212man 28th August 2020 18:58


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10872946)
Interesting to see no fire in the photos or video.

not much rotational energy in the rotor, or forward speed, either.

donner89 29th August 2020 00:13

B206 accident in Lagos 28/8/2020
 

Originally Posted by 212man (Post 10872980)
not much rotational energy in the rotor, or forward speed, either.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....37d4fd260.jpeg
Photo taken last year. She had been parked in the ACN hanger at NAF for last 2-3 years. Flew her quite a bit with Pan. Sad end to Bessie. RIP

A681001 29th August 2020 08:40

A view of the 206 getting taken away at .33 mark , that's one flat fuselage



donner89 29th August 2020 14:59


Originally Posted by A681001 (Post 10873331)
A view of the 206 getting taken away at .33 mark , that's one flat fuselage


https://youtu.be/M4bd_yUVZ3Q

From 5:56 mark,“According to eyewitness, the helicopter was seen hovering for more than 15 mins and the pilot was able to discharge the fuel before landing and that is why there is not much effect from the crash”

As usual, there is a remarkably observant eyewitness who can speculate what the pilot did.
That aircraft did not have the capability to dump fuel.

N4565L 29th August 2020 15:27

B206 accident in Lagos 28/8/2020
 
Here is a photo taken back in 2013 while still in basic Pan African color but with Helico Express titles.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....121403251e.jpg
Bell 206B JetRanger III 5N-BQW Copyright: Joe McDermott


N4565L 29th August 2020 15:30

AIB removed the wreck very quickly!

capngrog 29th August 2020 17:27


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 10872980)
not much rotational energy in the rotor, or forward speed, either.

Agreed. Perhaps an engine failure and an autorotation gone wrong?

Regards,
Grog

[email protected] 29th August 2020 17:49

Perhaps lack of fuel was the cause of both the engine failure and the lack of fire?

gulliBell 29th August 2020 20:40

That's the most banged up 206 I've ever seen. Incredible that anybody survived.

megan 30th August 2020 02:44


That aircraft did not have the capability to dump fuel
Except out the exhaust pipes. ;)
Seems to be some open areas available, but if hovering the H/V may be involved.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....743a6a42e3.png

Banzai-blades 31st August 2020 09:21

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7ccbc88bf8.png
Sounds like there might have been "other circumstance"

gulliBell 31st August 2020 15:52

It's certainly non-airworthy now.

donner89 24th September 2020 21:32

Prelim report
 
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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 10873720)
Perhaps lack of fuel was the cause of both the engine failure and the lack of fire?

Right on the money Crab, I think most of us shared that opinion.

gulliBell 25th September 2020 06:18

"Post occurrence examination revealed that the fuel tanks were empty"

There you have it....and the fact the pilots Class One medical and proficiency check had both expired probably had nothing much to do with it running out of fuel.

PPRuNeUser129638 25th September 2020 12:27

The report references a fuel upload to full tanks. Then only the ground run and accident flight. Something doesn‘t add up.

Either fuel upload log was wrong; the gauge faulty (and presumably low fuel warning system as well); or there was a leak or siphoning.

ApolloHeli 25th September 2020 13:31

What's a typical burn rate in the B206 for cruise?

PPRuNeUser129638 25th September 2020 15:09


Originally Posted by ApolloHeli (Post 10892302)
What's a typical burn rate in the B206 for cruise?

Depends a little on the individual aircraft, but one Longranger I flew regularly did better than 117lb per hour. Incredibly economical really.

Another had a dodgy low fuel warning calibration - always good for an adrenaline kick towards the end of a carefully planned flight.
Another started REALLY hot.
Another...

Had a colleague put the aircraft back in the hanger with not much more than fumes in it. This after having flown a customer to their destination, then taken off again and RTB - all with the low fuel light on. What a pr*ck.

Another colleague got so close to running out of fuel that the fuel pump pressure warning came on - he was in a state of shock at realizing how close he came to running out of the magic liquid.

212man 25th September 2020 16:14


Originally Posted by Torquetalk (Post 10892263)
The report references a fuel upload to full tanks. Then only the ground run and accident flight. Something doesn‘t add up.

Either fuel upload log was wrong; the gauge faulty (and presumably low fuel warning system as well); or there was a leak or siphoning.

no - the report says it did a ten minute ground run and a twenty minute test flight, after filling up the day before the accident. The accident flight lasted 2:54, so a total of 3:14 flight time plus ground running.

PPRuNeUser129638 25th September 2020 16:27


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 10892377)
no - the report says it did a ten minute ground run and a twenty minute test flight, after filling up the day before the accident. The accident flight lasted 2:54, so a total of 3:14 flight time plus ground running.

Then I misread the report. Thanks 212

What were they thinking?

Nubian 25th September 2020 16:48


Originally Posted by ApolloHeli (Post 10892302)
What's a typical burn rate in the B206 for cruise?

From memory about 28 USG (184lbs) an hour, in the 206B3.
It looks as the machine had range extender so 91USG full fuel. 91:28 = 3hr and 15 min




gulliBell 25th September 2020 17:53

Yeah, it ran out of fuel about the time you'd expect it to run out of fuel.

donner89 25th September 2020 18:10


Originally Posted by Nubian (Post 10892397)
From memory about 28 USG (184lbs) an hour, in the 206B3.
It looks as the machine had range extender so 91USG full fuel. 91:28 = 3hr and 15 min

That calculation is about right. His estimate for LAG was not accurate despite using a GPS and he told Lagos tower that he had 1 hour of fuel.

Direct line from NAF to Lagos is approx 250nm on a NW track and with a headwind component (westerly to North westerly wind typical for this time of year). Inadequate planning and fuel calculations. Nig regs dictate a VFR fuel reserve of 30 mins (14-15 gals). From a planning standpoint this flight would have been flown intentionally well into VFR reserves with no contingency, and only then with a topped off tank.


ApolloHeli 25th September 2020 18:11

Not many slices of cheese involved in this one...

gulliBell 25th September 2020 20:32

Makes you wonder if the insurance will pay out if the pilot medical was not current, the proficiency check was not current, and the pilot ran it out of fuel.

John Eacott 26th September 2020 05:49


Originally Posted by ApolloHeli (Post 10892302)
What's a typical burn rate in the B206 for cruise?

Ooh, there’s one I do know; 26usg or 100lt per hour :ok:

Essential as the fuel gauge is in US gallons, delivered in litres and aircraft weight calculated in kilos. Great system in Oz :p

Bell_ringer 26th September 2020 06:21


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 10892534)
Makes you wonder if the insurance will pay out if the pilot medical was not current, the proficiency check was not current, and the pilot ran it out of fuel.

insurance companies get sticky if a flight wasn’t legal. Improper fuel management already puts them on the wrong side of that equation.

PPRuNeUser129638 26th September 2020 11:48

Given the lack of OPC, medical and competent flight planning, would it be any surprise if there was none?

trevelyan 26th September 2020 23:04

Why oh why oh why don't the local authorities secure the area? The video in the first post has all of the locals climbing all over the wreckage, old people and young people and everything in between I assume looking for something to salvage.

megan 27th September 2020 00:07


Essential as the fuel gauge is in US gallons, delivered in litres and aircraft weight calculated in kilos. Great system in Oz
It's a daily check to keep your mathematical skills up to date John, so you don't end up dead sticking like that 767 in Canada and the 206 that is the subject of this thread. :E

212man 27th September 2020 00:51


Originally Posted by trevelyan (Post 10893343)
Why oh why oh why don't the local authorities secure the area? The video in the first post has all of the locals climbing all over the wreckage, old people and young people and everything in between I assume looking for something to salvage.

What planet do you live on?

Zombywoof 27th September 2020 00:55


Originally Posted by trevelyan (Post 10893343)
Why oh why oh why don't the local authorities secure the area? The video in the first post has all of the locals climbing all over the wreckage, old people and young people and everything in between I assume looking for something to salvage.

I told them to stop, but they ignored me.

John Eacott 27th September 2020 02:03


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10893365)
It's a daily check to keep your mathematical skills up to date John, so you don't end up dead sticking like that 767 in Canada and the 206 that is the subject of this thread. :E

I forgot to add the conversion of litres to kilos, depending on the SG of the JetA1. Usually 0.78, a very easy number to use for multiplication :p

OvertHawk 27th September 2020 17:11

Half a barrel an hour!

Keep it simple!

:ok:

Fareastdriver 27th September 2020 18:51

I see in the Sahara Reporters article they state that the 'Owners Tricked the NCAA into Obtaining Operators Licence'.

Sounds like a new term for dash.

FH1100 Pilot 28th September 2020 00:30

Well, he *almost* made it.

The distance from the NAF in Port Harcourt to Lagos is, what, 250 miles? A clean and light, high-skid 206B should be capable of about 105 KIAS at 80% torque. That's 2.4 hours, give or take.. With 91 gallons onboard and 26 gph, he *should* have had an endurance of 3.5 hours with full tanks. But did they get the thing 100% full? And remember, they dicked around, running it and test-flying it for a total of .5 the day before, so that brought his endurance down to 3.0. Still, that *should* have theoretically given him a 30-minute reserve.

With no en route refueling available, he probably thought/prayed that he could make 100 knots groundspeed, which would give him 2.5 en route. But apparently the flight took 3.0. Did they not go in an absolutely straight line? Were the winds higher than predicted/planned? Can we imagine the thoughts going through that pilot's mind as he looked at the GPS and saw a GS of only 80 knots? Holy cow, what an awful, depressing feeling that must have been! But instead of turning back at the point-of-no-return, he pressed on, maybe hoping the winds would die down and he could get the groundspeed up. Tragically, that never happened.

Once we take off, pilots are eternal optimists. And that pilot's optimism caused him to run his little 206B right out of fuel. With the prospect of a long flight like that...another pilot might have stuck a couple of 5-gallon jugs of Jet-A in the baggage compartment and set down along the way to put them in. Or...the smarter thing to do would've been to top the tank off again before departure.


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