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UK HEMS Pilot Pay
Looks like the shortage of pilots is being felt in the UK. Babcock Onshore now offering up to £80k according to their Linkedin page, although no mention on how long you have to serve to get that. I wonder if the other big UK operator will follow suit?
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Do you have a Link? |
Do you have a Link? |
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With the cost of getting an IR in Europe, especially if you need ME, I have always wondered how they are able to get pilots in the UK that can afford earning as little as they do. |
Originally Posted by WhirlyHEMS
(Post 10616924)
Looks like the shortage of pilots is being felt in the UK. Babcock Onshore now offering up to £80k according to their Linkedin page, although no mention on how long you have to serve to get that. I wonder if the other big UK operator will follow suit?
The value for a line pilot is around 60k, maybe some more for a touring pilot. This numbers maybe.....and only maybe for a TRE on both types Babcock flies. Not everything that shines is gold, and with Babcock there´s a lot of shinning at first glance........ Happy landings |
Originally Posted by berlioz
(Post 10617612)
I´m sure this numbers are not for a line pilot.
The value for a line pilot is around 60k, maybe some more for a touring pilot. This numbers maybe.....and only maybe for a TRE on both types Babcock flies. Not everything that shines is gold, and with Babcock there´s a lot of shinning at first glance........ Happy landings |
Originally Posted by TomAndreas-NOR
(Post 10617472)
With the cost of getting an IR in Europe, especially if you need ME, I have always wondered how they are able to get pilots in the UK that can afford earning as little as they do. |
Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 10617742)
Incorrect...
Safe landings |
How many hours a year could HEMS/Air Ambulance co-pilots expect to be flying? Children's Air Ambulance in Doncaster/Kents, surrey sussex HEMS etc.
Just out of curiosity |
All depends on the qualification of the P1. I know of copilots getting very irate as they cannot log time due to the P1 not having an ATPL. They fly as technical crew. But to answer your question, ~ 200. LZ |
Whate ever a HEMS pilot is payed in my opinion it is just not enough. What a wonderful job the whole HEMS crew do.
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Originally Posted by Hot_LZ
(Post 10618968)
All depends on the qualification of the P1. I know of copilots getting very irate as they cannot log time due to the P1 not having an ATPL. They fly as technical crew. But to answer your question, ~ 200. LZ |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10619885)
There's nothing to prevent them logging the time, but it can't be counted for the purposes of a qualification.
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This "multi crew or not" is an anomaly. Only the chap who signed for the aircraft can officially "use" the hours, but if there were an accident caused by pilot error, it's likely that the authority would pin blame on both pilots. |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10619885)
There's nothing to prevent them logging the time, but it can't be counted for the purposes of a qualification.
LZ |
I fly as P2 in a EC135, HEMS. My rating is 135 MP IR, done MCC, the ops manual states the operation is multi-pilot, and I do my OPCs and Linechecks from the left seat in a multicrew environment.
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Originally Posted by rudestuff
(Post 10619947)
..or as total time since you can't log P2 in single pilot ops. Which does beg the question why two people..
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Originally Posted by Non-PC Plod
(Post 10620234)
Creating an ad-hoc quasi multi-pilot operation by using 2 x SP qualified pilots is a very dangerous road to go down. If the operation needs two pilots for safety, then it should have 2 properly qualified MP ops pilots, ( as per what Chorbington describes below) instead of looking for ways to bend the rules!
couldn't agree more. You either do it properly multi-crew or not at all. |
Hot LZ ”The times they are a changin” I didn’t pay too much attention to the blurb at the time (as irrelevant in my case) but I believe it was announced that 2 CPL(H) pilots can now fly as Multi-crew on CAT - as long as various exams passed, boxes ticked etc |
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