Think it's not the first CHC 139 baggage bay warning, but this latest one's a wee bit more erm, alarming than the earlier one.

Heard that the Cyprus have ordered 2 AW139s yesterday, can anyone confirm ?
This would bring the total to 5 for the Cyprus government (3 for the national guard).

hello there!

I am about to get a type on the 139. Anybody got some info somewhere i can read?

Thanks

Long Nose vs. Short Nose
 

We're a corporate operator adding a 139 to our operation.
Does anyone have experience with both versions (not the SAR extended long nose) who could shed some light on the real world differences?
Range is important and we would need to operate with the Aux. Fuel Cell.
Is CG the big concern? What about nose hi attitude during lgds and in a hover, and how's the visibility for off airport ops?
Someone put this in the bosses ear (not an aviator) and he's concerned. Is this an issue?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks and Merry X-Mas.

HeloDrvr.
Try trawling through the whole thread, lots of gen and info. News on some of the problems developing with aircraft over about 1.500 hrs would be cool.

Tail boom delaminating, anyone received a new tail boom with the build changes and better quality control. How are they performing?

Any other issues re the boom would be cool.

Outhouse.:ok:

4 axis vgp approaches
 

hello to everyone of the 139's community.

my question:

are vgp approaches possible on any waypoint in the database or are them possible only on non precision approaches published for a determined location??

how do you set them up on the FMS? (as far as vertical constrains shown on the right side of the mcdu screen..)

how do you shot them?

Thanks

Software..........
Bagage fire is just the warning.
But steps extended and cargo hoos armed on the cas when the system is not installed(or active)
Also the advisory landing light comes on.
Think honeywell should do something. 4.8 software is released to early maybe. found a few bugs in it.
Seen this malfunction now for the third time...

Folks what is the maximum height reported for the aw139 ? 10000' or 15000.......:(

Maximum height reported for the aw139
 

Maximum height reported for the aw139 is:

http://www.spaghettifile.com/viewtrack.php?id=461711

Pigi

Increased AUM to 6800 kg
 

Supplement 50 to the RFM allows for increased AUM to 6800 kg BUT no operations from grass surfaces permitted over 6400 kg. CHC are operating from a grass strip at North Denes and there may be others in the same boat. I wonder what strategies are being hatched to take advantage of the extra lift capability yet avoiding the prospect of manoeuvring on the soft stuff. Take mission fuel at the first stop maybe, having left with one-stop fuel? Would be a shame not to boost the payload one way or another.

G

The increase in gross weight isn't an RFM update, it is a Supplement requiring a kit to be installed. Anybody know if CHC or any other operator has installed the kit to allow for using the higher gross?

Typical bizarro Italians with their Alice in Wonderland Limitations. "No operations on grass surfaces". I guess you can sprinkle down some gravel or horse-manure and be legal again. The 139 really is a helicopter, and just maybe, on very rare occasions, might have to land away from an airport. Grass, mud, wood decks, steel decks, snow, dirt, rock, sand...........

Mmmmm ....

I believe the "Helicopters NewZealand/Australia" machines were delivered with the increased Gross weight kit installed.


:)

Be worth asking them if there are any other maintenance or life penalties if you operate it over 6400kg, I would expect this information to be somewhere other than the FM

Never ususally get anything for free, be interesting to know

Malabo, I think that by "grassy surfaces" those pesky Italians meant "irregular" surfaces, since those surfaces can put further strain on the landing gear.
I also think that by operations they meant "ground taxi".
You can always lift straight to a hover.
Part of the supplement includes doublers to be installed to the MLG bogies.
Anyway, I have the supplement somewhere and I'll double check it.

Those pesky Italians.:*

Mmmmm ....

I'm more concerned about changes to the CoG envelope if any?


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Tottigol wrote: ...Those pesky Italians.http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/bah.gif

Why don't you fly Bell or Sikorsky?

Tottigol...Totti is one of the most famous italian football player and gol , in italian, sounds like goal!!!!
A pesky italian!!http://static.pprune.org/images/icons/laugh.gif

And to add some questions to 139 specialists:
- after you pay for that upgrade (I heared about 500000 euros per chopper...), are you able to take off at 6800kg IGE in ISA+20 ? What about the weight in the hover
OGE in the same conditions?

Thanks a lot...

Mmmmm ....

"are you able to take off at 6800kg IGE in ISA+20 ?"


YES ! what a machine eh?



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Another reason for the 6400Kg limitation from grass surfaces may be because of the wheel size and sinking.

Spinwing
 

C of G envelope - just continue the fore and aft lines up to 6800 and you have the revised envelope. (Make sure you are looking at the CG Envelope Rev 11 which moves the aft limit at 6400kg backwards to 5.504)

Performance at 6,800 Kg - OEI ROC 2.5 minute power

Sea level/40 deg C - 875 ft/min
2000 ft/30 deg C - 800 ft/min
5000 ft/20 deg C - 600 ft/min
8000 ft/10 deg C - 400 ft/min

G.

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