Bell 412/212 Training
 

Hi all,

I am looking for somewhere to undertake a Bell 212/412 Type rating course.

I have searched the forum but to no avail and the CAA web site only lists
4 212s and 2 412s .

Bristows web site mentions that they have experience in these types but does not list a type rating in these types.

It doesn't necessarilly have to be JAR training as I could do it through my FAA licence

If the price was right i would be willing to travel to do the course.

Any help you could give me would be appreciated

Thanks in advance:ok: :ok:

Chester2005

Check your PM. ;)

Bell 412 training
 

Try SAS Flight Academy in Stockholm / Sweden :ok:

Maybe you could save yourself some $$$ by going to the Middle East and getting a rating from either Aero Gulf in Dubai, Gulf Helis in Doha or Abu Dhabi Aviation in Abu Dhabi.
Then you can spend a little time there enjoying the Arabic culture, +100* temperatures, get a few hours of offshore under your belt then BAIL OUT like hundreds have before you. Good Luck.
Munch Munch

412 IR
 

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a 412 IR in the UK? Has to be a CAA approved FTO...

Got the type rating already.

Thanks!

Calli

I understand that Alan Mann at mailto:[email protected] offer training on the Bell 412, though when you do it, do the 212 differences course at the samee, it should only add a week to your course.

Regards omanman

Thank you for the info :-)
 

omanman,

Thank you very much for the information, I will certainly contact him.

Regards
calli :ok:

Bell 412/212 Training
 

Good morning, Does anyone know of any JAA TRO in the UK or Europe for the Bell 412/212. I need to re-validate an out of date license and quick!! any Ideas out there? short of signing up again that is!

TRTO
 

Winchin Out

Try these folks....TRTO...But they're very busy with the commercial season and may not have a machine available. But worth a call....

http://www.agrarflug-helilift.com/

Ask for Dennis or Robert...Both fluent English speakers and nice guys...

170'

cheers
 

thanks v much

Alan Mann 212/412
 

No, unfortunately they do not. Definitely not! Try Bristow or FBH for a professional job ~ VFR

I believe that Bristow have recently put the 212/412 back on their TRTO approvals; call Bristow at Aberdeen.
FBH do not currently offer a civilian course on either variant.
There is also a JAR TRTO in Croatia: Zagreb, I think.

There's no JAR FCL2 TRTO in Croatia which offers B212 TR at this moment...actually there is no a helicopter TRTO nor FTO in Croatia at all :(

As for the Bristow, I have called Aberdeen about an year ago for the B212 TR and they had no helicopters available...

What is the name of this company you call FBH?

Thank you :ok:

I contacted FBH to find out that they only do military or government training contracts, not individuals.

Guess you have to look further.

212/412 Ir
 

Hi,

I am a current mil pilot with a Jaa CPL type rating on the Bell 212, looking to obtain a Jaa IR on type. Already checked the links above but with no joy.

Advice on current JAA Organisations and IRIs would be appreciated.

Regards,

HP2

Hello all..

SAS academy is nowdays [B]Oxford aviaton academy[B], including 212/412 sim and looot of courses..

Fly safe..

Hi,
There is FTO in Serbia which offers B212 TR and IR…

212/412 Ir
 

All,

Thanks for the replies so far and the PM,s. Just waiting for OAA to get back to me. Also tried Inaer and helisul but no joy. JAA land is a big place, there must be somewhere to get an IR on the 212.

PPruners help required.

Regards,

HP2:ugh:

Happy new year PPruners. SURELY, there is a JAA FTO offering the IR on the Bell 212/412. All contacts above have been checked with no joy. :ugh:

Have you tried Spain Inaer or FAASA.

Links please?

INAER do not have an FTO, only TRTO so unable to do an IR.

FAASA has an FTO but as far as I know do there IR courses on A109's. I would suggest getting in touch with them to see if they could do it in a 212/412 although I think it unlikely. Also might be an issue getting hold of an English speaker to give you the information, although I'm sure the IR instructors are fluent in English;)

http://www.faasa.org/index2.cfm?codigo=0400

Good luck! let us know.

FAASA run basic corses on Hughes 300s then operate Bell 212/412s for fire dutys. They have just bought a large number of AW119s.

Hi all, Faasa is doing IR course on the Bell 412, no more on the A109.


Cheers

Miles

412 sim
 

The 412 sim in Dubai is JAR approved, although as of a few months ago they didnt have a resident examiner, but they did say they were getting one!

I guess this has been posted before but...

Would any of ou like to share where one can get a JAA approved Bell 212/412 type rating training and what should one expect to pay for it?

training?
 

@Heli-Ice

go and gather some info's at Oxford simulator (former SAS) in Stockolm, Sweden; now their sym is JAA approved for type rating and comes approx. 1000€/hour dry.

Otherwise if you cross the Alps southbound you will manage to spend over 2500€/flight hour if going for the real machine in Airgreen, Elilombarda, Inaer, Elitaliana.
They all have web sites.

Cheers

maeroda

Thank you.

Bell 212 /412 IR
 

Hi,

I am still trying to find a JAA FTO capable of conducting a 15 hour JAA IR package in the Bell 212/412. 10 hrs minimum in a FNPT2 and 5 hours in the aircraft incl skill test. With the implementation of EASA from 8 April, keen to get it complete in Feb/Mar before any changes have an impact.

The following have been tried;

FAASA, Proflight, Inaer (not a FTO), UK (no FTO able to)

PPruners help required.

HP2:ugh:

Sounds like you want to convert ICAO IR to a JAR IR.
Why does it have to be a 212/412 ?

Goodgrief,

UK Mil/CAA dispensations. Already have a JAA type rating on the 212/412, which would prevent having to complete another type rating, providing I find a company to complete the IR package.

HP2

Not mentioned before?

Get in contact with Mr. Bönig from the company "Motorflug" in Baden-Baden/Germany.

He will take you to the Simulator in Stockholm....the cheapest (AFAIK) you can get.....

I´ll need to go there by myself....so maybe we can share one or two hours....

Huey please check you pvt messages...Thanks

Hueyracer,

Thanks for the info, just emailed the company. I'll keep you posted.

Regards,

HP2

Bell 212 Type Rating Re-validation
 

My UK CAA ATPL (H) needs bringing up to date and thanks to the recent ruling that prevents CFS Agents from conducting the type rating assessment, I now need to seek the services of a civilian TRE in order to make the grade. As I am currently instructing on the type in the military, I may be able to gain use of an aircraft with which to conduct the check but it seems there are very few Bell - rated TREs out there. Does anyone out thereknow of a jobbing Bell 212/412 TRE who might be able to help?

B212/412 TRE
 

Hi, why don't you try PMing 'Troglodita' ? He's a well seasoned commercial 212/412 man who spends his time between Dubai and Nigeria. He may be able to help or recommend someone.
With fraternal greetings,
ambi:ok:

Mad, in Spain you can do It with:

FAASA Aviación

and

INAER, líder global en servicios aéreos de emergencia y mantenimiento de aeronaves

Hi MH,

Good to see you the other day :cool:. I tried to follow a similar path but for the IR, unfortunately there was only one possible company in the UK that could assist and they own your current aircraft.:ugh:

There is a couple of TRI/TRE's in EASA land that could help. Please see the PPRUNE link below:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/326...-training.html

Hope that's useful.

HP2