I define "dormant" in the same way as Companies Act 1985 does! :rolleyes: i.e. not trading.

Please note - this refers to Biggin Hill Helicopters Ltd; Biggin Hill Helicopters may well trade under another company name - that was the question I was asking! This is not to be considered "suspicious" at all; many companies do this for quite legitimate reasons so nothing can be inferred from this.

Cheers

Whirls

I think that I remember seeing a sign in the old office of BHH saying that "Biggin Hill Helicopters" was a trading name for another company with a name like "Hughes Helicopter Company" or "Hughes Helicopters Ltd".

Hughes definitely rings a bell for BHH. I think that name appears on G-INFO if you search a BHH machine's registration.

I'm pretty sure I saw a very well known Formula 1 driver using a BHH registered twin squirrel during the period around the Silverstone Grand Prix.

Were BHH still going then, or was the machine lent to the driver or his sponsors as a favour, maybe by the owner?

all uk companys have to put on thier letterheads the correct company name /company registration number
abc helicopters limited trading as bye bye helicopters co reg no 2342345
if any one has sight of a letterhead all shall be revealed

Companies House & Registered Aircraft
 

Hughes Helicopter Co. Limited

Directors: W J Lowry
L Probert 06/03/1973

JWL Helicopters Limited also gets a mention! (As having been Invested in)

Mortgages held on G-CCRE, G-HOOT (Now G-TBHH), G-CCPY, G-OCBI, G-JAMA, G-IBHH, G-SCOO, G-SBHH and N-5001N

18/07/2007 - A Director and the Company Secretary resigned.

The Mortgages are held by Hollybrook Limited.

I would have checked the above on G-INFO however, when I tried, there seems to be a server error??

Three Blades I believe that's correct.
"Biggin Hill Helicopters" was a trading name. It traded under that name for 15 years or more. It was only a trading name, not a limited company.

Then, a couple of years ago, something rather odd happened .....

Someone (not "Biggin Hill Helicopters") registered a company as Biggin Hill Helicopters Limited.
As far as I know, nothing came of it and that company has never traded. (Whirlygig's research appears to confirm my belief.) However, it begs the question:
Why set up a company in someone else's trading name? :confused:

Some may find it difficult to think of an honourable motive for registering a company in someone else's trading name.

Lots of unanswered questions.
eg

• Who registered Biggin Hill Helicopters Limited?
• Who are/were the investors behind Biggin Hill Helicopters Limited?
• What are/were their motives?
• Can there be any motive other than planning to take advantage of the good name another business has built up over many years?
• Are there people who knew BHH was struggling and, for their own motives, spread damaging rumours?
• Are they behind some of the new usernames who appeared out of the woodwork in the last BHH thread earlier this year and now in this one?

I've only flown from BHH once, a few years ago when I was looking for a Jetranger renewal urgently and they fitted me in, but I was very impressed by the FI (Simon), the Examiner (Bill Lowry) and the school set-up.



FL

"...a couple of years ago..."
Was this more like a year ago when the new partners appeared ?

I don't know.
I thought it was some time in 2005, but I'm not sure and haven't checked.

What I do know is that it is nothing to do with what we know as Biggin Hill Helicopters.

Whoever did it is keeping very quiet.
The issue was raised in the last thread but nobody owned up.

I suppose it's possible there could be someone in the UK sufficiently involved with helicopters to set up the company but who doesn't read this forum - but highly unlikely IMHO.



FL

Biggin Hill Helicopters I believe were brought by Mr :confused: and renamed Hughes Helicopters. They do not have a currant AOC, but sub charter out the work. The Chief Engineer is a certain Scotish gent from the Sywell area.

I understand that the engineering section is/was spun off into a second company

There's a listing here for a company located at same hangar:
http://www.avbuyer.com/Directory/Avi...CatId=&Id=2097

bhh
 

bhh was agood company, wait and see who the owners of the new company are they will obviously be aware that under insolvecy laws it is illegal to be come a pheonix type company,i stand by bill good luck helispeediii

Kent helicopters used to be the maintenance organisation. The only thing that seems to remain of bhh is the 'helicopter days' voucher selling business.

BHH
 

BHH was the trading name of Hughes Helicopter Co. Limited and always has been.

Kent Helicopters was a separate company and did the maintenance for BHH and others., but not so long ago BHH took over their own maintenance, and I believe Kent Helicopters are no more.

Also a while ago (year+) BHH took on a MD to run the day to day business side of BHH. Bill is an aviator, not a desk pilot. This seamed to be working well, when I was last hovering around drinkling their tea.

I'm sure as eggs are eggs, that Helicopterdays was an idea the new MD created, and you can from their website you can buy any of BHH's aircraft. No bargains though.

I get the feeling BHH has gone, as we used to know it and rumours are well a blaze. Lets not let rumours turn in to fiction.

Are you sure, their web site (http://www.helicopterdays.co.uk/about-us/index.asp) says:
We're not an agency that takes your money and then books the day with another helicopter company. We take the booking, we provide the pilots, we utilize our own fleet and we do the flying.



Is there still Schweizer based training going on at Biggin Hill Airport?

There was certainly a Helispeed callsign flying around Biggin a couple of weeks ago. And it looked very much like an S300.

Although, rumour has it that they might be down an aircraft. See threads passim for details... :}

There was a note in the latest BHAB Members' newsletter that Atlas Helicopters have taken over the charter and sightseeing tours part of Biggin Hill Helicopters. Not sure if they would use the Helispeed callsign though.

The Helicopter days website also says they have 30 years of experience doing it. Personally, I would like to see the proof of that.

Correct, Atlas do their AOC work.

Also correct, they have just lost a Schweizer.

Worse than losing a biro :-(

I heard a helispeed call sign on H4 yesterday but didn't see the craft. Would that have been an Atlas flight? Odd they would use the call sign from a defunct company?

Defunct? MMmm...
 

"Hughes Helicopter company" (trading as Biggin Hill Helicopters) is still a trading company according to companies house.