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Old 3rd Aug 2007, 16:46
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Biggin Hill Helicopters ???

I just tried calling Biggin Hill Helicopters on 01959-540803 and I visited their website at www.bhh.co.uk, and No-ones Home!!!

Does anyone know anything??
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Old 3rd Aug 2007, 17:18
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I heard (about 6-8 weeks ago) that Bill Lowry, who founded BHH, had left. He stayed on for a period under the new owners but, as often happens, it's not easy for someone who's owned/run a company for many years to adapt to new owners' ideas about how the business should be run.

I heard some rumours about BHH earlier this week but, mindful of the risk to the owners of this site, I won't repeat them.

I urge others to show the same caution:
The owners of PPRuNe provide us with forums free of charge, but we have a corresponding responsibility not to put them at risk of legal action by posting potentially libelous rumours/allegations.

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Old 4th Aug 2007, 06:48
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Re Biggin Helis

They have renamed the company, changing the web address and telephone numbers. Have a look at www.helicopterdays.co.uk
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Apparently they have over 30 yrs experience I wonder why they would suddenly change their name like that ? I hope that does not bode badly for any creditors
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According to the CAA website, 'helicopter days' have no AOC/TRTO/FTO. Looks like it's a 'voucher selling' business only.
 
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bhh

how sad there were many good times good luck to bill helispeediii
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We were warned!

Looks like Heli1987bell spoke some truth months ago! I wonder if Bill wants to post another reply giving his side this time!?!? I have have noticed that BHH signs have been taken down and their web site is no longer working plus their ad page on AvBuyer is also gone. Looks like Bill & his son were made redundent and Lee Probert is not to be found? Helicopter days is just a voucher selling company set up by Lee out of his Hot Tube shop in Tunbridge. I also hope we do not have pilots/students sitting money lost through up front payments!!!
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I know of one company, (mine!) that is trying to recover monies from Mr. Probert. I called their offices many times these last few weeks only to be left hanging. I did try and speak with Bill as his post a few months ago would give the impression that BHH was important to him, only to find that he left over a month ago.

Are there any ex-staff that can shine a better light??

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John Mortlock

Welcome to the forum (in your new username.)
Looks like Heli1987bell spoke some truth months ago!
No, you didn't.
You made a number of libellous allegations and, when challenged, to substantiate them, couldn't.
When challenged to disclose your true ID to PPRuNe in confidence, you stopped posting.
Not surprising because, when I looked into your allegations, they turned out to be a pack of lies.

I wonder if Bill wants to post another reply giving his side this time!?!?
Read the posts.
Bill Lowry left BHH a month or more ago.

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Old 6th Aug 2007, 13:58
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Thanks BHH !!!

I am an ex-student that obtained my licence through BHH earlier this
year. Bill if you are reading this, I just want to say thank you, thanks for your time, and your experience. Thanks to all the staff, the instructors, and the engineers. At all times BHH was extremely professional, a great crew of people. I had a great time learning to become a helicopter pilot.



Thanks Again !!!

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This is interesting reading.

http://www.payontime.co.uk/collect/p...companies.html
 
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That is interesting reading. Does anybody know if they have gone under? Also do we know if the company has been re sold to this new operator ? And at what price ? May be interesting exercise to phone the liquidator and make an offer for it ....IF of course this is the case....which it may not be ....Are there many people out there owed money ????
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Just a quick note to Bill if he's about and reading, to chip in and thank him for giving me the start in my flying career.

Still think Dubai may have been a more sensible bet, but you twisted my arm and I certainly enjoyed instructing down there.

Now, where's the back of that creditors' list? I need to join it.
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Warning
As astute regulars will already have realised, several of the new usernames are the same person.
He's registering different names to agree with himself.
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How utterly gutless. If anyone has a beef then state it instead of dancing about the place.
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I think the reason people are "dancing around" is that if they say something more concrete then it will get deleted by the moderator for being potentially libellous.
 
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Look at it from the PPRuNe owners' perspective.

They provide a free service, but that does not include putting themselves at risk of legal action by people posting anonymously.

If people wish to post allegations that could be libellous, they are required to provide a verifiable name and address, and information supporting their allegation.
Moderators are required to enforce that rule.
The PPRuNe owners then decide whether to allow the post.

We know from experience that allegations by newly-registered usernames need to be treated with even more caution.
Also, as in this thread, it is often one person using a number of different usernames.

I've removed some posts in an attempt to avoid the thread being closed. If people persist, the thread will inevitably be closed or removed by PPRuNe Admin.

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HP - that seems more than reasonable and under that structure: [which I seem to have wrongly assumed everyone understood,] I say again " How utterly gutless. If anyone has a beef then state it instead of dancing about the place".

But of course that is not likely to happen, is it?

Best Wishes
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Old 6th Aug 2007, 22:41
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Your local, friendly Chartered Accountant has just had a delved into Companies House and has come up with Biggin Hill Helicopters Ltd as being a dormant company with a Company Secretary of @UKPLC Client Secretary Ltd and a Director being @UKPLC Client Directory Ltd; both being an organisation running company set-ups etc. This information was all current at Companies House as of 28.02.07.

Haven't found anything else but will investigate later. If there is a trading company name, can someone please let me know. All of this is within public domain knowledge.

Cheers

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Old 7th Aug 2007, 00:14
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How do you define " dormant" ? Biggin Hill Helicopters was invoicing for charters up until 2 weeks ago. Does anybody know if they owned any helicopters or just used owners ones ? If they dont own any i guess a helicopter co with no machines and no aoc is not worth much then ??
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