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Magic Balancing Machine

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Originally Posted by SuperF (Post 10040386)

put the magic balancing machine in the nose and they will then be silky smooth

Are you talking about DynaTrack?

Hot and Hi,

It may have been. I can't remember what it was, but it made it beautiful and smooth.

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Originally Posted by reubensmurphy (Post 10037757)

Hello, this is my first question ever, so don't judge me if I sound like an idiot. I've recently got to the point where a helicopter may be a viable option, and don't know what to do or where to start. I live in the UK, near Canterbury, and regularly go skiing in Val D'Isere as I have an apartment there. There is a helipad nearby and so would like to fly to and from there, so any info on this would be great. What I would like to know is first of all, what helicopter should I go for? I can spend roughly 700k, though would like to know how I can do this- lease, finance etc. I would probably do roughly 200 hours per year. I've done one lesson and thought it was fantastic, and will carry on, when I know what to do.
Thanks in advance,
Reuben

I'd definitely recommend getting your PPL (H) as a starting point. That in itself will teach you a lot. Although, don't expect it to be done in the 40 hrs. Enjoy the learning process but expect 60-80 hrs to do it properly.

By default, many people go down the R22>R44>R66/B206 route and that could be an easy option. But the S300>H500/EN480B route or Cabri>Eurocopter routes are other logical options.

There is a lot to be said for ownership - it's your helicopter, you learn to know it intimately, and it's there for your use whenever you want it. Financially, it starts to become viable above 100hrs pa. 200 hrs pa is actually quite a lot for a PPL, but you need hours to improve proficiency.

Thanks again to all of you. How about a Bell 505, when they start being delivered?

They already have been, some in South America, Australia, NZ, USA.

Bell 505 - twin rotor, articulated head; just like the Jetranger, which would be much cheaper. If you are happy with the head design, then a used Longranger might be in your price range. The L1 is a little underpowered (for me) but after that (again, for me) they beat a Jetranger (206 or 505) hands down.

However, for me, I would be looking at 3 blades or more and a fixed rotor head. I fly a bit in Scotland, and around the mountains it can get rather "interesting".

Seriously; blag a ride in several machines and get a feel for what they can do vs what you want to do

...maybe just rumour, but I heard they had a number of 505 orders in Guatemala - after the 1st delivery all others cancelled...

I would think - 505 using most of the 206 gear and switching the RR for the Arrius (which loses out on the RR above 6000 ft) - seems the 505 is NOT very impressive in HOT and HIGH and HUMID.....

As mentioned - if you need something else than a 66, get TWO 44s!

Or find a good used 206 and soup it up with the new blades!!
EC120s are going cheaper now too!
...or find a light 350.....

3top

Thanks again, there is a lot to choose from... if I can afford it I reckon an AS350/ H125 would be best? How would I go about leasing one and how much does it cost?

Thanks for your time,

Reuben

https://robinsonheli.com/press-releases/r66-turbine-cargo-hook/

Guess I got my answer. This is awesome! There is nothing on the bubble window doors, but I'm sure they are available as well

They are offering bubble windows for $4,900 a door and mirrors for $340. Go to the helicopters link, R66 and then R66 cargo hook link.

I see they are also offering heated seats and nice looking new G500H panels.

Can anyone tell me the reason the R66 is limited to 30 degrees Celsius for Autorotations?
Many thatnks
TS

R66 Autos to 30 degrees!

Too keep it simple,,up to and including 30 degrees heat and you’d have just enough density in the air for the autorotative forces to work on the blades at the bottom of an autorotation and at 31 degrees,,, you’d splat off the ground! Seemples!
Or Robinson only tested the R66 in temps up to 30 degrees!

HJ

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Originally Posted by TunaSandwich (Post 10239387)

Can anyone tell me the reason the R66 is limited to 30 degrees Celsius for Autorotations?
Many thatnks
TS

You referring to this:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...43464cd26.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Bell_ringer (Post 10239596)

You referring to this:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...43464cd26.jpeg

Yes!! That is correct, I do not recall a similar limitation on the R44, but it's been a while..

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Originally Posted by TunaSandwich (Post 10239387)

Can anyone tell me the reason the R66 is limited to 30 degrees Celsius for Autorotations?
Many thatnks
TS

That limit begins at 6,000'. If you overlap that chart with the "power on vne" chart you will see that both NO FLIGHT sections match up. Therefore if you cannot fly at 6,000' and 30 degrees, how can you autorotate from there?

Those temp/PA combos equal out to 14k+ DA, which is the limit for any operations.

Mike

OK, thanks, I was assuming it was SL - 6000

And yet the R44 II has somewhat higher limits.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...46f14f3786.png

That's what I say - choosing between R44-II and R66 - one needs to REALLY analyze the mission at hand!!

3top

Anyone know why (according to those charts) the only place an R44 can fly that an R66 cannot is at 6,000' and 8,000' and 40 degrees? The rest of the NO FLIGHT area looks to be identical.