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mickjoebill 5th August 2012 10:21

head impact
 

"NOTE 6. Determination for compliance with 27.562(c)(5), Head Impact Criteria (HIC) must be performed for any equipment installed in the cockpit or passenger cabin."
Does this regulation have scope for interpretation, which includes wearing of a helmet to lessen the effects of impact? In relation to this clause below, does wearing a helmet mitigate the HIC risk of the temporary installation of a TV monitor that is within striking distance of my head when I operate a cineflex?



(d) An alternate approach that achieves an equivalent or greater level of occupant protection, as required by this section, must be substantiated on a rational basis.
Mickjoebill

Heli-Jock 5th August 2012 12:11

R66 or Jet Ranger
 
I agree with "verticl freedom" and "Granny",,,,Jet banger all day long!
There was a N Reg jet ranger on e bay recently for £165k,,seemed a decent aircraft.
I also watched the Heli Air R66 N reg, N66NN i think was the call sign,,take off from Oban on Friday around 4pm, it departed straight over the water at 90 degrees to the main runway! :ugh:

No floats and people sitting in back seats!
I trust the RR engine is fail proof?

Hughes500 5th August 2012 14:28

Probably be the MD of heliair with a take off like that, utube the first flight in UK !!!

helicopter-redeye 5th August 2012 19:49

It is usual for heli's to depart EGEO at 90 degrees (west) to the runway for noise abatement purposes. Especially if going West..

From the pages of the AIP


5. Helicopter Operations
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise

Heli-Jock 6th August 2012 19:37

Red eye,,,,
Im sure the AIP will in now way overrule the ability to safely conduct a flight to and from the airport!

Couple hundred yards out to sea and couple hundred feet high, no floats, one engine, people in back seats,,,but im sure the pilot would have been able to safelly autorotate to land in the event of a failure? :=

Im not bleating on about it, really im not, i see things like it week in, week out, up and down the country, im sure we all do.




5. Helicopter Operations
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise

chopjock 6th August 2012 22:11

Heli-Jock


Im sure the AIP will in now way overrule the ability to safely conduct a flight to and from the airport!
So was the flight made safely?


Im not bleating on about it, really im not, i see things like it week in, week out, up and down the country, im sure we all do.
How many things do you see like it actually crash?

Heli-Jock 7th August 2012 18:41

CHOP JOCK


So was the flight made safely?
Maybe the question should have been, "Could the flight have been conducted even safer than it was"?


How many things do you see like it actually crash?
Whats your point?

helicopter-redeye 7th August 2012 19:28

What was YOUR original point? Was the R66 flight conducted in an unsafe manner?

The prevailing wind at EGEO is from the west and the runway is north south. Should he take off out of wind?

Why would the engine fail anyway?

An engine failure on 19 will drop a helicopter into deeper water (or an area that is not flat). 01 gives you a caravan park (OK if you are working for Top Gear).

Would the rescue boat have been able to deploy in time irrespective of the location of the landing over water?

chopjock 7th August 2012 21:11

Heli-Jock


Quote:
How many things do you see like it actually crash?
Whats your point?

My point is if you see things that you think are dangerous happening week in, week out, up and down the Country and there are no accidents, then perhaps they are not so dangerous as you think?

initalcontact 25th September 2012 20:42

FAA Certifies Robinson R66 Police Helicopter
 
Had a look but couldn't see this elsewhere on the forum

http://www.robinsonheli.com/media/pr...rtified_pr.pdf

misterbonkers 29th October 2012 19:26

Robinson R66 & EASA Update?
 
Hi All,

Does anyone have an update on the situation with the R66 & EASA? Have the European distributors had their 'meeting' with EASA?

regards,

MB

Soave_Pilot 29th October 2012 21:47


I flew the 66 Sydney to gold coast and back smooth cumfortable and roomy sat on 125-135 kts. Airspeed and smooth as. Used 80 ltr hr up and 81 lt hr home
OAX:

how many aboard? These numbers seem a bit off to me.

w/ 4 aboard i cant get over 120 kts (nil wind) and the torque would be at about 78%, bringing the fuel flow at about 95 lts/hour. Normally i fly at 72% TQ that gives me 110kts 85lts hour.

Cheers

Soave_Pilot 29th October 2012 21:55

I'm also getting an instrument error in my IAS at about 10% less than the true airspeed, seems a lot to me.

I have the non heated pitot on the 66 I operate, has anyone else experienced this?

Gemini Twin 17th December 2012 21:20

"The exhaust is directed somewhat downwards as it leaves the engine, but the underside of the boom, tail feathers and the tail rotor still get a fair bit of soot. Our aircraft are washed every day they fly, but we'll be painting a fair bit of that area dark to help keep them looking good."

Anyone else having this problem ? Is it something that should/could be fixed?

Grenville Fortescue 2nd January 2013 08:45

Does anyone have an idea as to how many R66's have been sold in the UK to date?

Is it doing well?

Robinson sales sometimes provide a glimpse of how the private helicopter market is holding up.

John R81 2nd January 2013 14:31

As the R66 is not yet certified for the UK register sales may not yet provide any indication of the state of the private helicopter market in the UK.

FLY 7 2nd January 2013 15:34

The R66 is not EASA approved and there is some uncertainty if/when it might be.

I think the private helicopter market 'peaked in 2000-2008.

However, in the current climate, I would imagine most private buyers would be looking for 'pre-owned' bargains. So, a good indicator might be how quickly used MD500s, B206s, EN480Bs, EC120s, R44 RIIs, etc, are selling.

OAX 7th January 2013 08:37

R66 fuel usage
 
To reply to the fuel usage in my R66
I mainly travel with 2 up and baggage
Sitting at66% 115 kts I use 81 ltr hr
I just flew back from tazzie a few weeks ago 5.1 hrs from flinders and headwind all the way
Heading up new coast had 20 kts on the nose so we sat 83'% all way from malacoota and burnt 84.7 ltr hr also 2 up this was 130 kts air speed
I do agree they do fly better with a heavier load on but speed and fuel don't seem to vary much

OAX 7th January 2013 08:41

Air speed ind
 
Yea my 66 has a heated pitot
The asi is not accurate and I'm told it is user error
Seems to b more effected with a cross wind
I have also had them take off the small reflectors on both sides at the static vent due to asi bouncing

Ian Corrigible 31st January 2013 10:52

Reports of a third R66 fatal in Brazil at the beginning of the month: ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 152438.

This follows the two previous fatals in July 2011 (Colombia) and October 2011 (South Dakota).

I/C


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