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Pandalet 2nd December 2009 07:59

And another vote for CAPT. The Bristol question bank is worthwhile as final prep for the exams - £50 gets you 3 months of access. If you ask around, you may be able to find someone who finished up the month before you who isn't using the other 2 months of their subscription.

In summary, CAPT for the training, and a subscription to the Bristol question bank for exam practise.

flyingtonka 2nd December 2009 11:14

CAPT Versus .....
 
Thanks for the info - any particular reason why you would choose CAPT over the others?

Whirlygig 2nd December 2009 12:40


any particular reason why you would choose CAPT over the others?
Yes!

Cheers

Whirls

darrenphughes 2nd December 2009 15:31


In summary, CAPT for the training, and a subscription to the Bristol question bank for exam practise.
I would agree with the above. I used www.aviationexam.com for the exam practice. They were "ok", but they were incredibly slow to fix mistakes in their question bank. They have made some major changes to their site(for the better I think) and added to their question bank just this week, so hopefully it'll make for a better experience. I have yet to see much criticism for Bristol online system.

General Mutley 2nd December 2009 15:39

Are not all the Bristol question bank geared towards fixed wing whereas the CAPT course is the full ATPL H so the questions would be heli based???
:ok:

Need money 2nd December 2009 15:59

No not all - under the interim arrangement you do a helicopter specific Principles of Flight, both study and exam with Bristol.

paco 3rd December 2009 08:43

Bristol has heli questions. They are the best database - the problem is that the rest of Europe hasn't caught up with them yet! :) We recommend our students use it about 4 weeks before the exams, when they have enough knowledge to figure out the problems (not with Bristol but with the JAA!)

Phi

n9537q 13th January 2010 18:42

what tests, what order
 
Can someone please tell me what specific subjects are included in the modules 1 and 2 and each respective school: oxford, bristol, cabair, cranfield, bournemouth etc. In other words, what tests do you study for first? The reason I am asking is because I have not settled on a ground school provider yet, but I already have the books and want to get started.

For example, Naples Air Center has two modules:

1. Meteorology / Navigation / Instrumentation / Performance / Principles of Flight / VFR and IFR Comm

followed by

2. Radio Nav / Flight planning / Air Law / Mass and Balance / Operational Procedures / Aircraft Gen Know / Human Performance

In laymans terms, WHAT TESTS DO I STUDY FOR FIRST????????????

Whirlygig 13th January 2010 18:49

It depends on the school so you need to ask them. Unless you have an exemption, you would need to enrol with a school before you start studying.

Some schools (I went to AFT) will allow you to study the subjects in whichever order you want and I split mine into three modules to make it easier on my study time.

Cheers

Whirls

paco 13th January 2010 19:52

We do ours in a specific order to minimise repetition. They can be varied, but we'd prefer you not to.

Module 1 ATPL

HPL
POF
AGK
Instruments

Module 2
RNAV
Met
Air Law
Ops
Comms I & V

Module 3
FPM
FPP
M&B
Nav

The FW course will be similar

Phil

tonge 13th January 2010 21:10

How accurate is the Bristol question bank compared to actual CAA questions??

Whirlygig 13th January 2010 21:23

Very good. :ok:

Cheers

Whirls

Pandalet 14th January 2010 07:40

If you're studying the helicopter-specific questions (ie. not the transitional), the Bristol bank is mostly excellent. That said, when I last looked at it a year back, there were a number of incorrect questions on stuff that wasn't in the syllabus, so you need to know what you're supposed to know (if that makes sense).

chopjock 14th January 2010 09:44

These question banks are all based around the ATPL questions I think. Does anyone know where all the best questions are for CPL(H) level? I would rather spend my time rehearsing all the relevant answers. :)

Pandalet 14th January 2010 11:37

Don't Bristol have a CPL database as well? I'm sure there was a link there for one, but I've never tried it, as it wasn't relevant to me. Perhaps give one of the schools running a CPL(H) course (CAPT, Tiger?) a ring and see what they recommend?

Whirlygig 14th January 2010 11:58

Bristol has CPL(H) questions. It's not that the questions are easier but that the CPL covers a narrower syllabus.

Cheers

Whirls

Euro155 14th January 2010 12:42

Hi

Just in the early stages of converting my JAA ATPL to a Australian ATPL H, does anybody recommend a OZ school for my IREX and air law.

Thanks:ok:

tonge 15th January 2010 22:25

I did the CPL(H) Air Law, Operational Procedures and VFR Comms today at Gatwick. Bar 3 or 4 questions on the Ops paper, I'd seen virtually all the other questions via the Bristol database. :ok:

Pandalet 25th March 2010 08:54

Some answers:

I don't believe the interim system is available (in the UK) anymore - you have to do the heli-specific one if you want a CPL(H). Which is fine, as it's much better than the interim one anyway.

You can subscribe to the Bristol questionbank whether you're a student of theirs or not. Last I looked, it cost £50 for 3 months of access.

My recommendation would be CAPT for the groundschool, with a subscription to the Bristol QB for final brush-up before exams. This is the route I followed, and it worked amazingly well.

flap flap flap 25th March 2010 10:00


Originally Posted by Faicho
Does anyone have some kind of "loss of license" insurance to cover you if you lost your medical? Obviously the ATPL/IR road isn't cheap so it'd be nice to have some safety net in case the worst happened, a safety so it can't become an investment completely lost.


http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/185...insurance.html


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