Rotors Running Refuels around Scotland
 

For GA use - not those secret company drums.
Putting a private flight together up to darkest Skibo from LBA.
Have yet to find a place that can do RRRF for me.
Elwood is too far south!
Looking for around Glasgow-Edinburgh
Cumbernauld is a negative!
Thanks in advance
PS. Let's not go over the 'why RRRF question' again!

Have you tried Bond Air Services at the SECC?

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will check for you tomorrow and get back to you...
R



(edited 'cos I can't do basic spelling)

I think Paul can do it at Oban. He fuels a lot of S61, Sea King and bigger traffic as well as a lot army machines.

Further south, Carlise do RRF (or did last time I saw them do it last summer). This would extend the range if flying Leeds/ furthernothinscotland



h-r;)

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!!i thought the dauphin had more range than that !!
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It's due in a couple of months!!!
Still coping with F1.
Cumbernauld can't help on the day in question due manpower shortage.....

I'll get out and do it myself!!!!!!!

Respect EESDL - you must have a cast-iron bladder (or one of those "Little John" bottles :eek:) .

Why not stop off at Cumbernauld anyway and take time out for a cup of tea and a cake (and a leak :eek: ) while we fill you up ;)

i called at perth last year dont know about rrrf on way to inverness

why not try robins then perth en route

There's Peterculter just outside Aberdeen, maybe too far away. We go in there now and then and they seem a speedy bunch. They're in Pooleys helipads section I think.

TiP:ouch:

Caution re Perth folks...

No JET A1 at the moment, due "sometime in the future".
Call 01738 551631 to check.

R

I think the comment about cast iron bladder is the governing factor here <VBG>. If you use Peterculter then phone to see they have sufficient fuel beforehand or you might get a surprise. Alternatively, PDG have fuel at Kintore but you'll need to arrange with them beforehand. To be honest, RRRF is a pointless exercise IMO you'd be better off with a more civilised break at Cumbernauld.

Grainger
If we've already spoken on the telephone at Cumbernauld you'll appreciate that hot Allisons aren't the greatest turbines to start.
Ironically, if I do have to shutdown - I'd rather go for lunch & dinner and come back when they're a lot cooler!!!!
Unfortunately my passengers may not want to spend part of their weekend at Cumbernauld and would rather spend it at their destination.

Thanks for your input - just another indication of how GA community is trying to treat the helicopter like fixed-wing again.
Personally, I think it's sad that there are so few places where RRRF is available.
Trying to remember the last time a helicopter with refuel points so far away from exhaust/engine (or whatever it is that is meant to make the machine spontaneously combust when the word 'rotors-running' is mentioned) set itself on fire?
The need for fire cover by some operators is strange and must obviously be based on past incidents...............

Don't get me wrong, refueling AVGAS over a running exhaust is one thing - and does not need H&S assessments to tell you it's a foolhardy thing to do!
Indeed, Captain should have their licence shredded for requesting it in the first place.

Airports such as Carlisle and Wolves should be applauded for maintaining such a facility.
Hurrah! To airports/heliports who recognise that time really is money!!!!!

Refueling with passengers on board? Tsk Tsk

996
Although I fly for a private company - we operate to JAR-Ops regulations - which allow, for certain situations and with suitably equipped/modified aircraft such a practice.
It's always a balanced decision.
Do you disembark passengers (regular chopper-company personnel) standing on the apron in hissing rain - getting nicely wet so they will mist-up the cabin/cockpit - at a location where shelter is across a busy ramp or miles away or do you keep them on board where situation is easier to retain control?
It's better to have them onboard so you can all have a smoke together and talk about whose mobile is best..................
imho - sad point-scoring attempt!

Grainger
popped into Cumbernauld for fuel yesterday.
Pleasant enough - but the horror story follows though
Fuel 63ppl inc vat
Landing fee (this is only for a refuel remember)
£58.70 inc vat

whilst personnel were friendly - prices weren't
may need to advise Pooley's that landing fees have changed!