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EN48 31st March 2010 14:07


any of ye have good apps for helicopters
Wing X aviation wx for iPhone and Blackberry is pretty amazing. See Hilton Software LLC . However, AFAIK, only suitable for U.S. operators. :ok:

Outwest 31st March 2010 15:15

LogTen Pro (electronic logbook and flight/duty monitor) is very good.

birrddog 31st March 2010 15:36

PilotWhizz is useful for conversions, though the W&B component is not great for helicopters.

For the US, Foreflight is good for Wx and flight planning (has a link to duats), can e-file flight plans. (Wish you could activate/cancel them in it though!)

Also useful is "Charts" - all US charts, PilotFAR and PilotAIM, once again, for US folks...

I second LogTen Pro.

EN48 31st March 2010 15:43


For the US, Foreflight is good
I once thought so too, and purchased ForeFlight several months ago. I subsequently found WingX and it does much, much more for only a few dollars more. IMHO, WingX is the one to buy.

colinharris 31st March 2010 19:25

I find the NOTAM's app works well, especially the overlay onto Google maps.

Brilliant Stuff 3rd April 2010 14:51

Logten Pro looks very good but you need a Mac to run it. I checked with them.

Must get a Mac me thinks.

ESI 11th July 2010 13:17

Caution Panel
 
EuroSafety has created a free iPhone/iPod caution panel app for the AS350B2 to stay proficient with airframe emergency procedures.

More airframes to come!

Let us know what you think!

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/isafety/id380233909?mt=8&uo=4" target="itunes_store">iSafety - EuroSafety

Gordy 11th July 2010 17:41

Hey Glen:


Let us know what you think!
Must be a mac/pc, Bell/Eurocopter, thing...... Most of us "Bell" pilots have "Droids" not "I-phones" ----far superior.... ;)

You going to make a Droid app too?

fly911 11th July 2010 19:23

I would say EXCELLENT at twice the price!

ESI 11th July 2010 19:36

App
 
Gordy, we are looking into doing a Droid app, the only problem is that there are many different screen sizes which would require around 60 different variations of every image. Once a model becomes "the Droid phone" we will jump on it!

Hedge36 12th July 2010 05:54

Not to be pedantic, but we need an Android-based app.

In my case, preferably in a resolution suited to the Motorola Droid.


:8

Gordy 12th July 2010 14:34

Hedge


Not to be pedantic, but we need an Android-based app.
I am using W & B charts and my company schedule, pilot & driver logs etc on my droid. They are excel programs, just load them into google docs and run them that way on a dolphin browser. The only problem is that the form will be "un-locked" and after entering data you need to refresh.

ESI 16th July 2010 23:13

[email protected], the Eurosafety app thread was just move to here.....


http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/213...es-pdas-4.html

[email protected] 17th July 2010 04:36

ESI.

Hi and Yes that's where i first saw it and started thinking about it but in throwing a little project together I started thinking about EFIS type CAP panels hence my look at the EC135 and my post.. I've looked at Eurosafety and you have some pretty good interactive training materials which I've mentioned in other places.

When I saw your app and the comments re the droid, i just started playing with it and you can see my comments re web apps which I personally believe are just more flexible and perhaps quicker to put together. I have quite a few years in the business as an operator and an IT background, hence my interest in marrying the two. I've always been of the opinion, that whilst we do fairly well in the front office (aka cockpit ref efis etc), we do poorly in our industry in the back office (ref admin etc). I have looked at Iphone app development and believed it to be too narrow a base if you consider symbian, windows mobile, droid; but one common thread is the continued effort of smart phone, and now soon to be tablet (Ipadesque) manufacturers to improve the web experience. Without doubt html 5 will only improve this experience. This lead me to look at how quickly a more flexible web app approach could be used to overcome some issues faced when dealing with so many different types of smart phones etc.

Feel free to comment, or pm me on anything.

ESI 17th July 2010 13:01

EuroSafety App
 
It is a interesting method, and a good solution to the various problems dealing with different phone models. We looked at doing it that way but still ran into the problem with screen sizes. The images stretched on phones that had the various size screens. Also the app is then only available when the internet is available and it is slow.

The technically advanced folks (which helicopter pilots generally are) are migrating to the Apple platform. The iPhone/iPod syncs with this platform smoothly. The only road block is Verizon. But Verizon will have the iPhone next June on the LTE network.

But at the end of the day the most important thing is that pilots get the information needed to operation their helicopter safely and what ever method that is we are a fan of.

B407 18th July 2010 00:31


The technically advanced folks (which helicopter pilots generally are) are migrating to the Apple platform. The iPhone/iPod syncs with this platform smoothly
Have been using iBal and WingX on the iPhone for several months. Just took delivery of a new 407 with the PSE PMA8000BT audio panel with integrated bluetooth capability. What an amazing combination. The iPhone does weight & bal, flight planning, NEXRAD wx, METARS, TFR's, airport facilities and much more and the iPhone works beautifully through the headset on the ground and in flight (emergencies only of course). And, if you have music on your iPhone, this will link via bluetooth to the intercom for pax (ands pilot if desired) entertainment. Best of all, no wires. Highly recommended, but some of this works only in the U.S.

[email protected] 18th July 2010 14:00

ESI - Comments appreciated and well noted.

Agreed that at some point tables have to be loaded, but with mainly textual data the whole thing can be loaded at aircraft selection time which is not too bad. With respect to the graphics and screen sizes, you have to wonder if users would really care, once the general representation of the layout was true and the training information provided was accurate.

Another approach might be hybrid whereby tables are loaded and stored on the device - unlike foreflight type apps etc, ( the database would not need to be updated too often as cockpit procedures don't change nearly as often as AFD's etc, so you get the benefit of a web based app, but also the ability to use offline.

From posts like B407 below, it is only a matter of time before we see more and more use of iphone/ipad type devices in the cockpit (far less expensive than any other EFB options).

All good stuff, no matter which side of the equation you're on (unless of course you continue to stubbornly hold out for sales of your $3-10k EFB devices).

ESI 18th July 2010 15:49

ESI
 
I agree that the most important thing is that the information gets out there. I believe you are right that sooner or later the iPad will make its way into the cockpit. It will give us pilots many of the resources that are now more difficult to consult. Keep up the good work.

thewarnerbros 22nd August 2010 13:20

Doodle Jump - iPhone 4
 
I'm sure everyone has now downloaded this ap onto their phones ... BUT, does anyone know what type of helicopter is being used at under 2,000 ft ?

Brilliant Stuff 22nd August 2010 15:00

Sorry don't do games.


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