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I'm with Devil 49.
On a few flights I have had to deal with C of G problems. Cyclic travel is something you have to give a really good thought and the "cheat sheets" don't take into account your special circumstances. Your "Go there it'is or Get there it'is" shouldn't discourage you from doing the actual calculations! It pays off at the end of the day. PA & DA is something to think about in real life, not just for the CPL exam. |
Fastest, simplest, & best method of calculating W&B in the world.
http://www.flyincg.com
Try it, you'll be a believer. P.S.: No, I don't work for them, I've just used their products for years and prefer them to all other systems...and I've seen a lot of systems. |
FOOL
Heliduck,
Your statement of an R44 will fly if you can close the doors is so full of !!!! I cannot believe it. You will be making a statement to the ASTB here in Australia with regards to the R44 crash about 5 weeks ago which killed 4 people. The aircraft was overloaded with the doors closed. I hope you never tell this story of yours to an inexperienced pilot, as the result might be the same as the result as I explained above. The red lines on the gagues in the cockpit are there for a purpose. You idiot BB |
You Fool, Who?
Blade Banger
Heli duck was agreeing with spencer17's comment, "that a R44 will fly if you can close the doors." (I know, not word for word), and was refering to the C of G remaining within limits if the Load was carried inside the cabin, He was not suggesting that if you could fit four 140kg people inside and still close the doors that it is right to fly. just pointing it out before somebody writes something nasty |
C of G Spreadsheets on the go
I am after .xls spreadsheet c of g calculators for types :-R22/44, B206/L, AS-350 (All types), AS-355, A-109, EC-135.
If anyone can direct me to where i can get these, i would be most appreciated. I have some old C og G calculators for AS-350 B/BA/B2 but am looking for an updated version. I can't find the old thread which had this some time back..Oops. Is it possible for a normal .xls file to be used on a PDA with office on it or does it have to be converted. Just about to buy a PDA so i can use the aforementioned out and about. Anyone else using PDA's with this type of software?..Success or failure? Many thanks in advance. MD :ok: |
Well to get you started here's one for the R44 that you could modify for the 22 with the appropriate envelope data.
Navtech do a wonderful piece of flight planning software on the PocketPC palmtops which includes an excellent extensible model for weight and balance. You tell it the shape of the envelope and the MAUW and it will give you a graphic display of the result. See here. |
MD, check your PMs.
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Try these!
Try here - a sampling: A bunch O' spreadsheets, etc
Note: if you run my PPC program in Pocket Excel, it will disable the graphing function (which will then not work in SpresdCE). BTW, I use a Dell X50v with a 1GB SD card and a rhino•skin case - works great! |
If you get a Palm, then what you want is Copilot. You can also use Documents To Go on the Palm and work with .xls files directly if you want, but Copilot does so much more there is really no comparison, and it's free. There are a number of helicopters profiles already available for Copilot, and it's easy enough to set up new ones for those that don't exist.
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Try also these w & b spreadsheets, with graphs and PA calculations.
They take account of zero fuel weight. For Bells, or any other machines where the c of g moves with the fuel load, all you need is a lookup table, and the command vlookup. I just updated the 212 one, and the lookup function is used with performance figures as well.
Phil Having merged the threads on this topic, I've merged some of your posts with direct links to each of your spreadsheets to make them easier to find. Heliport |
MD check your PMs
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Mega response
Thanks guys. There is a lot of great material here. Most appreciated
MD :ok: |
W & B calculator
Hi all
Looking for an Excel Weight & Balance calculator for a Hughes 500C. Anyone got one or know where to look? Cheers Andy:ok: |
It wouldn't be hard to adapt any of those under my post above with the Flight Manual
phil |
Flight Plan - Pilots Toolbox
Wonderful! Has the following features, great CRP1 replacement!
The current set of features: Conversions: - Avgas kilograms and gal (US) conversion - Avgas kilograms and litres conversion - Avgas Pounds (lbs) and Gallons - Avgas Pounds (lbs) and Litres - Celsius and Fahrenheit - Feet and Meters - Gallons (Imperial) and Litres - Gallons (US) and Litres - Inches of Mercury to Millibars - Jet-A1 kilograms and gal (US) conversion - Jet-A1 kilograms and litres conversion - Jet A-1 Pounds (lbs) and Gallons - Jet A-1 Pounds (lbs) and Litres - Kilograms and Pounds (lbs) - Kilometers Per Hour and Knots - Kilometers Per Hour and Mach - Kilometers and Nautical Miles - Kilometers and Statute Miles - Knots and Miles Per Hour - Latitude/Longitude Formats - Litres and Gallons (Imperial) - Litres and Gallons (US) - Nautical Miles and Statute Miles - Miles Per Hour and Knots Weather: - Wind Direction and Speed - Heat Index - Dewpoint - Density Altitude - Pressure Altitude - Cumuliform Cloud Base - Temperature from PA and DA - METARs - TAFs - International Weather Navigation: - Climb Gradient to Climb Rate - Course, Ground Speed, Wind Correction Angle - Course/Distance from 2 Lat/Lon Coords (GPS or manual entry!) - Critical Point - Distance from Time & Ground Speed - Heading, Ground Speed, Wind Correction Angle - Leg Calculator - Rate and Radius of Turn - Rate of Descent - Required Ground Speed - Runway Crosswind with Gusts - True Airspeed, Density Altitude, Pressure Altitude - Time En-route - True Airspeed (Rule of Thumb) - Wind Star - Airports (AirNav.com) - Global Airport Data - Global Navaids - NOTAMs (TFRs from NIFC) Fuel: - Endurance - Flex Weight Take Off - Fuel Burn - Fuel Rate - Fuel Uplift - Fuel Volume to Weight - Fuel Weight to Volume - Point of No Return Weight and Balance: - Small Aircraft - Medium aircraft - Large aircraft (Coming soon) MyLinks: - Allows users to create links to helpful websites from within FlightPlan. Some useful sites may be specialized local airport and weather data sites for your country! News: - Gives users a way to check for any FlightPlan related news right from the software User Guides: - Documentation on advanced features of FlightPlan |
W&B for Windows Mobile
Here are a few more links for a few more aircrafts.
For Bell 412 EP, HP & SP with performances includedFor S76C+ For the famous Bell 212 |
206b3 and r4411 weight and balance please
please can some one help me with the weight and balance of a jetranger 206b3 and a r4411. i have recently brought navbox proplan 5 can not get my sums right and it is doing my head in . i have ask the soft wear company but to no avale . i am hoping for some one to help please.please.please. help :ugh:
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Jet Ranger MTOW usually 3200lbs sometimes 3350lbs
What else you need ? Moment info? Joel :ok: |
Your aviation authority will need to approve whatever W & B system you use (if you want to be legal), at least in Oz. John Tullamarine (Mod) is the expert if you have questions.
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Heli W&B for iphone
iBal, details at iBal
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