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rudestuff 12th August 2006 19:19

whats a 306? is that a Bell product or a Peugeot?

John Eacott 13th August 2006 05:15

Mr Walker's website:


We invented the concept of helicopters towing banners about 10 years ago;
I must find out why I have banner towing entries in my logbook from 1989 in Melbourne, and as for this photo that I took in about 1972, I guess that doesn't count :p

http://www.helicopterservice.com.au/...fly%201972.jpg

bigbanners 13th August 2006 07:17

Concede that one...
 
I'm not to sure if that '72 tow does count - it's not really a banner, is it? More a small rag.
Interesting anyhow... Should I have said that I invented the banner concept with the first safety system approved for over city flights...got the FAA in Los Angeles to first approve it in 1994.
A lot of prgress since then - and my inference about the Aussie designs referes to the big slow sheets of cloth I've noted they fly to often - there's a right way and wrong way to make them, and fly them.
We fly at 50knots, are capable of tight manoeuvres...and we still fly with trained flight-rigger assisting the pilot.
The safety systems has been refined and has been 100% reliable over all the years.

eagle 86 13th August 2006 09:40

My God there's a lot of wankers on this site - and the biggest of the lot are the f'ing kiwi's - as I said on another thread - the petty jealousies that make up the Australiasian helo scene absolutely leave me gobsmacked - well done John E you are streets ahead of the rest of the pups!!
GAGS
E86

canterbury crusader 13th August 2006 09:58

Is this a bad time to talk about Pavlova then?

Helinut 13th August 2006 11:04

Didn't Pavlov do an experiment with dogs where he could get them to react ahead of themselves because of a learned behaviour...?

canterbury crusader 13th August 2006 11:31

I was talking about the dessert ???

Blind 13th August 2006 17:29


Originally Posted by John Eacott
We have been flying flags for >10years, although only over water. One operator has approval for an overland system in Australia.

Largest that I have flown was about 35,000 sq ft.

http://www.helicopterservice.com.au/...17_gp_flag.jpg

John, I'd really love to know what 35,000 sq ft is, can you give me a clue in standard british tabloid measurements of football pitches, nelson columns or double decker busses? Cheers!!

PS Pavlov played with dogs, Pavlova a scrummy pud named after a ballerina

John Eacott 13th August 2006 23:33


Originally Posted by Blind
John, I'd really love to know what 35,000 sq ft is, can you give me a clue in standard british tabloid measurements of football pitches, nelson columns or double decker busses? Cheers!!

From memory, the flag was about 265ft x 132ft, on a 150 ft line from the BK117. Nelson stands 169ft 5 3/4in above Trafalgar Square: at least, the top of his hat does :)



Brian Walker:


I'm not to sure if that '72 tow does count - it's not really a banner, is it? More a small rag
I'm sure that you were only joking, but there may be a few who have served under the White Ensign who may not find that too funny a remark. Only two posts, and you seem to have made a name for yourself already :rolleyes:

canterbury crusader 14th August 2006 00:22

3150 sq meters
 
so about one third of a football field

Heliport 16th August 2006 09:45

Threads merged.

OldRookie 16th September 2006 13:24

Banner Towing ?
 
Does anyone know of a U.K. company that engages in this activity ?

VeeAny 16th September 2006 13:44

Not quite banner towing like you would with an aeroplane but Cabair were doing it earlier this year towing a giant flag around, heard the callsign cabair Flag over London quite a bit.

V

paco 16th September 2006 15:01

Polo (in Bristol) do it as well. 01275 877000 if memory serves

Phil

Brilliant Stuff 17th September 2006 22:02

01934 877000

paco 18th September 2006 01:00

Of course it is - thanks!

Phil

OldRookie 18th September 2006 08:08

Thank You
 
Thanks for the info. I will check it out

RINKER 18th September 2006 09:10

I've seen PDG out of Cumbernauld in Scotland towing banners with a Squirrel
R

OldRookie 21st September 2006 10:46

More questions !!
 
I found some references on a Kiwi site to banner towing operations in a Hughes/ schweizer 300/269. Does anybody know any more or actualy do this ?

verticalhold 21st September 2006 11:02

Sorry guys, read the rest of the thread. The ONLY company allowed to do this task in the UK are Cabair at Elstree. The others sub-contract to Cabair when required and there is always a Cabair pilot on board. The job is always done under the Cabair AOC. Last year I flew a heck of a lot of it. My back is only just starting to lose the twin squirrel seat shape:{


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