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Recuperator 3rd November 2004 16:02

Helitubby
 
Helitubby,

Speak to Clint Watt (ex Eurocopter?)

Apparently there is a software problem that does give a false "OVER LIMIT DETECTED", especially if a higher than normal (not necessarily an exceedence) Nr is experienced, e.g. during quickstop, auto's etc.

Radio masts and weather as cause I haven't experienced and can't comment on that.

Can tell you that I worked for a utility company in SA that used the EC120 extensively for powerline work, optic fibre stringing on the powerlines and never had any interference with electricity on the EC120 and some of the lines carried 400Kv that we worked on and over.:ooh:

helitubby 3rd November 2004 16:19

Alfa Hotel
Been flying EC120 for about 10 months.
Cant say weather has been a big factor either, but will keep looking out for a trend.
Have also heard the software problem before.
Thanks for the replies.

lamanated 5th November 2004 13:13

airframe oil and fuel filters for the 120
 
I see there is a requirement for antiicing additive,but is there an airframe mounted filter such as the other companies use to eliminate this requirement?? and anything for a nicad oil filter for the engine also??thanks

Billywizz 10th November 2004 11:20

whatsarunway
 
We are just about to have our third FCU fitted within 500 hours!
Any body know of problems with this unit, at £20,000 a time its getting VERY expensive.

3top
thanks for the info on P2/bleed valve.
It would be nice if engineers came forth with all the information regarding maintenance. I don't want their job, Ijust want to know whats going on up there when I'm flying.

oxi 10th November 2004 18:54

Question......Has anyone seen my duals, they went missing out of the Eurocopter hanagar at Bankstown Sydney Australia.

The collective has the landing light switch snapped off, both collective and cyclic are early model with all the switches.


Appericeate any help....as Eurocopter arn't.

widgeon 10th November 2004 23:53

Eurocopter Canada were working on an airframe fuel filter a few years ago , not sure if it made it to market yet.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...5?OpenDocument

they have one for the EC130 .

toolguy 30th November 2004 15:43

EC-120 Survey
 
I am looking for EC-120 operators willing to participate in an aircraft model survey for an article I am writing for a major aviation magazine. Survey form will be kept confidential if desired., or you can be quoted by name if you desire. Form has twenty general satisfaction issues, rated by satisfaction level from 0 lowest to 4 highest. Form can be emailed or faxed, in ms word format or adobe .pdf. Topics include:
Hover Performance:
Fuel Economy:
Vibration/ cabin:
Vibration/ cockpit:
Cockpit Visibility:
Instrument Panel Layout:
Controls – Layout:
Noise: External:
Cabin Temp. Control:
Seating comfort:
Ease of Maint.: Overall
Scheduled Maint. Program
Frequency Unsched. Maint
Engine Reliability:
Maintenance Manuals:
Parts Support – helicopter:
Parts Support - engine:
Tech. Support – helicopter:
Tech. Support - engine:
Overall mfg. Support:
Operating cost:
Overall satisfaction:

Contact me if you would like to participate. Thanks!

goaround7 10th December 2004 13:47

compliment for EC120, for a change...
 
Did a short piece to video the other day in the EC120, shooting backwards out of the removed bottom door.

Notwithstanding all the other bewildering design faults of this aircraft, it was very, very good.

Not only did the seats, seat belts, 'bulkhead' door and bottom door come out easily and safely (and put them back in later by myself without a hernia or too many trapped fingers) but the ride was fast, smooth, steady and perfect for the shots of the aerobatic aircraft doing his stuff behind us.

Anybody else tried it for film work ?

Well done EC ! Now just put a proper engine in it !

(Still not a Squirrel though...)

moosp 15th December 2004 11:20

MR Shaft Drive inspection
 
Rejoice with me. :D

We have just completed SB63-006 - MR Shaft Drive Inspection (yes I know its late, but we only just bought it...) It is clean as a whistle on a 1999 machine with no sign of corrosion.

Anybody had a problem with that SB or was it a couple of isolated incidents? Just curious.

Fox6 15th December 2004 16:31

ec120 auto
 
Just wondering what the fpm descent (on average) standard day in a 120 during an autorotation.

f6

3top 15th December 2004 19:33

60kts steady, anything from 1400 fpm to 1700 fpm, depending on your weight.

3top

lamanated 4th January 2005 18:15

Pre delivery inspection items
 
Just wondering what you would recommend to someone when picking up a new ship..thanks

jellycopter 4th January 2005 19:36

Ensure you have a pre-acceptance flight test performed to ensure it actually meets the advertised performance in terms of quoted OGE performance and cruise speed. If it doesn't, don't accept it. I know someone who bought a B2 Squirrel to relace his B1 and was very disappointed when it didn't meet specs. It went back to Eurocopter, but ultimately, it was never fully sorted out and doesn't cruise as fast as his previous, lower powered machine. J

USACJ 4th January 2005 20:10

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/usacj/N120DJ_TheIsland001.jpg

No sure if the photo worked but here is a photo of a 120 with the Cineflex V14 HiDef on a meeker mount.

chopperdr 5th January 2005 15:26

fyi: have just received EASA certification for our side flir / nightsun mount. to date we have 22 mounts in service most of which are used in law enforcement.
thanks
cal meeker
www.meekeraviation.com

helicam 5th February 2005 10:12

How Much!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I decided that It might be quite a good idea to purchase my own EC120 flght manual being as I fly the aircfaft on a regular basis.

Being a foolish R22 pilot up until now, I called up MCAlpine and instead of being quoted the £30.00 I was expecting which is how much my R22 maual cost. The gentleman on the phone explained that If I sent him a cheque for £700.00 then he would send me one

Are they printed in gold leaf ? or is someone just taking the XXXX

I thought that it was down to the pilot to stay current with the aircraft !!!!!!!!

Haggis Hunter 5th February 2005 10:35

It's Eurocopter... need I say more?

HH:cool:

CyclicRick 5th February 2005 12:13

Not only Eurocopter, a Bell 205 manual cost about $850,-. I know 'cos someone nicked mine out of my cab a couple of years ago. I'm just glad the boss didn't dock my pay for it :uhoh:

Heli-Ice 5th February 2005 12:35

Yeah! It never ends... I was told it was not that expensive to learn to fly helicopters and it would be relatively easy to get a job flying one... but NO now I find out that it is even very expensive to just read about the darn things, let alone flying them!

I've been had! :D

Tony Chambers 5th February 2005 12:40

not on the topic of flying manuals but can anybody take a rough guess as to the cost of a gazelle door handle?


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