CHC Sleeping Giant
 

Unrest at the CHC camp suggests the "giant" is about to be caught napping and let a long time and expanding (to 3 aircraft) Adelaide contract slip through their grasp.:uhoh:

High Nr,
What happened to your post?? Don't tell me you deleted it because you thought it was offensive??? or stupid???Possibly one of the moderators deleted it; and rightly so.

I quote one of your previous posts,

It’s interesting to recall my old English Teacher’s words of wisdom, “If your adversary [debating team] has to revert to personal attacks or name calling, then they have already lost, you may not have won, but they have lost.”

Your really are a hypocrite.

Well done Maintranschip and Wineboy. Your restraint showed a dignity that High Nr knows not the meaning of.

Adelaide EMS Contract
 

Anyone got the goss on this contract, supposed to be announced today!!:ok:

A rumour from Queensland.
 

Just heard via the back door that CHC Adelaide are drowning in stale beer tonight.

Interesting about their longevity in Home Base?

What’s next?, Helimed’s then Timor, maybe more.

The beer was as fresh as a daisy, thanks!!

Told you so. Could this be a big enough call to wake the giant??

:ouch:

There must be a few red faces at the top of the beanstalk

Any "Old English Teachers" who have read PPRUNE would have
already topped themselves .

Look on the bright side... at least now CHC will have another spare 412 to take over more NSW Air Ambulance contracts... look out Sydney, Hunter, Northern Rivers ;)


:ok:

Silence is deafening
 

I heard it was Australian Helicopters, that is Marine and Reef, a young Aussie Company on the move.

Pity about the arrogance and head up yah bum attitude of the “Sleeping Giants” Giants!!

Good for Australia, and who cares about the Canadians.

Hey AV8R [Helimed 3] and old Clarence, your so silent at the moment, unlike you at such a monumental occasion.

You fully realize that loosing your heartland is like Bristow loosing BWX, Jayrow loosing Bass Strait, Heli Res loosing the Antarctic and Kenny with his small MPT. It’s the beginning of the end and you don’t know it.

It was Australian Helicopters, hardly a young company, but good on them none the less. We will wait and see if they can service the contract; we all know what happened when Noris Dynan won the Victorian contract, couldn't supply and CHC were more than happy to pick up the pieces (didn't Noris have the same ops manager/chief pilot as Australian do now?). People win contract, people lose contracts that's what competition is all about. Losing 2 machines in S.A. is really no big deal. Winning 2 (or 3 or 4) in NSW will soon make up for it. Begining of the end? hardly.
As for the silence being deafening, well the same could be said about the NSW EMS threads. How are the boys in the 'gong going? Doing very well I hear, client very happy. Not much being said by you and your like on that score.
Again, Congratulations to Australian Helicopters.:ok:

Did the new new company win this contract.... or .... did CHC lose it!!! Maybe some heads are about to fall!!

High NR

How many Canadians work for CHC in Adelaide?:confused:

Check their financial backers before you declare them any more Aussie than anyone else.

Arrogance will loose it everytime.

Look at the track record, Woodside, Bass Strait, Coastwatch.

But of course we are not arrogant, its all you folk that won't listen!!

MEDIA RELEASE
Embargoed to 00:00 March 10, 2005

AUSTRALIAN COMPANY BEATS OVERSEAS COMPETITION

Local aviation company, Australian Helicopters, has beaten off one of the world’s largest providers of helicopter services to be named the preferred supplier for the seven-year $52 million Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in South Australia.

Australian Helicopters’ Government Services Director, David Earley, said the decision reflected the company’s proven record in supplying rescue and emergency helicopter services 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

“Australian Helicopters has extensive experience in rescue and emergency services work, through its ongoing contracts with the Federal Government’s Coastwatch program and with Emergency Services in Queensland,’ Mr Earley said.

“We’ve built a strong reputation as a reliable and safe operator and one which is wholly Australian owned.”

Under the terms of the agreement, Australian Helicopters will provide a Bell 412 medium twin helicopter, a BK117 light twin helicopter and an EC130 B4 single engine helicopter along with a crew of 17, made up of pilots, crewmen, engineers and administrators.

The helicopters will be based at a purpose-built facility at the Adelaide airport.

“ We want to build a strong community relationship in Adelaide, just as we have done in the other regions we serve from the Torres Strait to Sydney.”

Australian Helicopters is expected to begin operating the Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in late 2005.

Australian Helicopters is a private and wholly Australian owned company headquartered in Brisbane. It operates 23 helicopters and has 80 staff at bases from the Torres Strait to Sydney.

Didn`t CHC/Lloyds have the same Operations Manager/Chief Pilot
as Australian Helicopters do now? (Before he left CHC in disgust)

Good point Nigel. Regardless of the ownership, people at the pointy end suffer.

I think High NR is just trawling for an argument.

Either that, or he is loosing his mind.
Or is it already loost (or is that loosed...)?
Maybe just a git?:suspect:

Hey Squid.
 

Sure I'm trawling, but I'm up front and honest about it.

But the normal vocal one sided self indolent critics have yet to respond.

Nig, its not the Aussies that work here mate.....its where the $$$ goes in the end?

Its not the sharp end people that suffer, it will be all the Head Office hanger on’s that will be moved on now.

Power to the Pilots!!

High Nr

Why is it that the Australian Helicopter buisnesses must be wholly Australian owned. It doesnt make sense, by your reasoning every buisness that is owned by offshore interests have no right to operate in this country. The world doesn't work that way anymore and you know this so methinks you have a personal axe to grind. Kind of creepy huh

Who gives a Toss? [Another Pom in the US]
 

I do.

Imagine an Australian trying to own a Helicopter Company in the big USA, or even Canada.

It would or could not happen, full stop.

The Yanks would take you to court, and the Canadians would buy you out, before you showed them up.

Power to Australian Helicopters and their staff, wonder what foreign owned contract is next to head back home.

Quite a few I suspect.

Cannot believe I am being dragged into this
 

As an ex English teacher I just helpfully point out the Antipodean registered contributors' failings in their spelling:

Loose means slack - he wears his belt loose around his waist,

Lose means to misplace something - I lose two mobile phones a year.

Sorry to intervene but it so distracts (me) from any argument you might have.

Teacher - Your correct.
 

But your a Pilot now!!, so show some tolerance towards your now lesser colleagues.

If I woz any smartor, I wood bea a Chalkie now!!

Still got your Cane at home?

I see this might take some time .....
 

Spelling 4/10 - see me:

Your - possessive adjective

You're - abbreviation of you are

Don't weaken Nr.

At least you use full stops at the completion of your sentences.

Now back to the subject matter at hand.

Vice Like, well said!

High NR
I will assume here that CHC, like any other company that operates a government (department) contract must demonstrate the content of "Australian Industry Involvement" through an "Australian Industry Involvement Plan". This means that a company must maintain a set amount of ‘Australian Involvement’ in order to maintain/sustain the contract. This figure is normally set at greater than 80%. The Government is then able to award contracts to foreign owned companies providing that they use Aussie involvement and not let all the funds go offshore.

So having a foreign company operating a government contract in Australia is fine by me, indeed it keeps many of my colleagues employed on better than award rates of pay, properly maintained aircraft, and flexibility in areas of work (offshore, EMS, SAR) not to mention a career progression for pilots/crewman (read crewpersons) and engineers.

I wish Aussie Helicopters all the best they obviously had the more attractive bid on the day. From what I hear, the Adelaide contract was a tough gig for CHC with regard to the types of clients that were involved. Maybe it’s good for all concerned that there is a change of operator and no I am not suggesting for one minute that CHC would have just let it go. I guess CHC will be even more determined now to secure the NSW EMS operation/s. ‘Swings and roundabouts’ my friend that’s how it works!

As for you High NR you were once apart of the system, however because you failed to meet the standards you left 3 seconds before being pushed… don’t be angry and hide behind the ‘Aussie’ company argument.

Be grateful that we have competition in Australia and we need companies/operators like (in no specific order) CHC, Bristow, Jayrow, Australian Helicopters, QR, Careflight, Westpac, Heliair, Helicopters Australia, Rotorlift, Lifeflight, Child Flight... etc etc who provide a pathway to pilots/crewman/engineers to increase their skills/knowledge/ability thereby making our Australian market more safer and more profitable.

Sorry for long post, I don’t see the need to constantly harp on this offshore owned company thing! High NR you need to be more constructive not destructive

Quickdraw :)

Rot8tor, please cut me some slack on the spelling/grammer it's been a tough morning. ;)

Rot8tor, does Anal - Retentive have a hyphen or not? :confused:

Just wondering?

Retiring - My last comment on the subject.
 

Being the last of the "Out of the Closet" Aussie Rednecks, I support all things Aussie before the imported item.

Is that so terrible?

Be Australian Buy Australian, seems to have been on the media lately, so I guess its just not me.

Quickdraw, I think supporting the home grown and owned Industry is very constructive. Obviously you have the opposite viewpoint/stance.

And just to put cold water on your low life suggestion, no I have never worked in your CHC system or even applied for such work. And now that I am in retirement [semi], I doubt I ever will.
So don't hide behind sly innuendo sleaze by trying to degrade others, play the ball not the man.

I guess if I had power supreme, yes I would ensure Aussie Contracts went to Aussie owned mobs, just like they do in other parts of the Western World.

Power to the home grown product and $$$.

Cheers, the Aussie Redneck.

Glad to see it's catching
 

Quickdraw:

Very Good .... fell down at last hurdle though - 'grammar' with two 'a's

407 Driver:

Yes, it does - but there are no spaces between the letters ie. anal-retentive.

Before tomorrow's lesson I want you all to make a sentence which includes the following words to help show their meanings:

Aboriginal, Third World, get real, open competition

High Nr,

You suggest that you have no connection to CHC. If this is so, why then do you continually attack the company so much? Please spare us the, come on Aussie come on diatribe, because your continued and vindictive assault, which borders on paranoia in my opinion, strongly suggests that you are either a disgruntled ex CHC pilot, or perhaps someone who failed their psych test – probably for a good reason…

G'day All,

Just to digress one moment from the spelling police and the amateur psychiatrics, does this mean that the rumoured move of the "sleeping giant" to northern climes is back on the agenda?

Cheers,

MPT

HiNr, there would be no problem with an Australian owning a helicopter company in the US. An Australian already owns most of the radio and TV stations and newspapers. A mere helicopter company would be small potatoes in comparison. Foreign money controls a huge portion of the US economy.

Hi Gomer.
 

[I said I wasn't going to respond again - I weakened].

How is the GOM going now? I worked out of MC a few to many moons ago, now just keeping up with most things through Sassless's comments, old systems die hard I guess.

I reckon your referring to Rupert Murdock?, if that is the case, yes he was an Australian!!!

The USA Government made him an offer [Baseball Bat type], become a US citizen, or your business venture is finished. So he did.

He is now legally a Yank, no longer an Aussie [just listen to him talk].

And was that fair???, of course it was, exactly the correct action by your Government.

Here in Oz, we don't seem to have such a nationalistic attitude, its a free for all, just come with the $$$ and we will sell you our Grandmothers.

My detractors seem to think I am anti particular companies here, that is not the case, I am anti the foreign ownership and particularly the foreign control.

My Nostradamus Prediction, “our Canadian Friends will buy out the successful operator of this Adelaide Contract, within 12 months.” [Or hopefully, the Aussie mob will buy the Sleeping Giant].

Seems to be the way the Codfather (Dobbin) does business..."..If you can't beat them, BUY them "

What in Australian Helicopters track record would prevent it from servicing the contract?

VICE LIKE- Talk about servicing a contract I hear the CHC barely makes a dollar out at Moomba, that can't be good.

Even if CHC are barely making a dollar at Moomba, one would have to think as long as costs are being met, it is better to stay & keep the competition out. After all, Oil & Gas is CHC's "Core Business" even though it would appear otherwise in Oz. :rolleyes:

I enjoy dunking Arnott's biscuits with my nescafe instant with Australian water boiled in my chinese made kettle. I love Subway and my Nokia phone. I drive a ford and fly Bell, SK, Eurocopter for money and don't forget an Aussie flag at the front of my home. I travel QANTAS stay at the hilton and drink bundaberg. They all do the job safely, physically, commercially and emotionally for me. Home grown or imported is irrelevent.


Perhaps there are those on this thread who would like an African style affirmative dysfunction as a model for government and other contract criteria.

I look for a company that has demonstrated a commitment to safety, pays a market rate, and treats it's people fairly.

Sorry fellows, the only Moomba I know about is a street parade in Melbourne. I think it's Australian owned, but of course it may have been bought out by Bernie Ecclestone & coy, then turned into a car race. Add F1 to my list of things which aren't Australian but do a great job.

Do Moomba Bag Pipe bands qualify as home grown? OR Home groan? In fact, add bag pipe bands to my list of semi indigenous things I enjoy. See the previous list which includes Bundaberg and the Australian flag.

I think SLSA lifesavers do a fantastic job, but I think I even saw an Asian female lifesaver recently. Big and small world isn't it.

Maybe some xenophobe could tell me whether they would decline being pulled from the surf by someone originally from outside Australia? Trolls.

Hey Devil.
 

There are Asian Females, and Asian Females...!!!!

Unfortunately I have met both types, but that is a story for another day all together.