The entire ‘thing’ is the china virus. From the way the CCP let the virus spread around the world, to the overbearing government incompetence displayed reacting to it, to the corruption of the entity’s suppling an unproven ‘vaccine’, to the incompetence of the media reporting, to the corruption of government censorship trying to cover up their incompetent handling of the whole thing as is now being disclosed via Elon Musk releasing the Twitter files. The whole thing is the ‘China Virus’


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That's terrible jayteeto. Really sorry to hear that.

Can we get back to side effects please, or we'll be kicked off to Jet Blast... and given the valuable personal accounts that would be a great pity.

Jayteeto,

Sorry to hear of that as It does seem quite an over reach.

In the early 70's while in my prime during my Class I Flying Medical exam for the US Army I was diagnosed with what was called "Idiopathic Dilatation of the Left Pulmonary Artery" and I was referred to a Cardiologist at the Base Hospital.

After some interesting tests, X-Rays, and Fluoroscope routines....including a Barium Swallow of some radioactive dye.....which some Idiot got in my stead....thus necessitating a second visit to get mine done.....I sat for two weeks worrying about what it all meant.

When the final Consult was had.....the Doctor looked at me and "Yes...your left pulmonary artery is enlaged....forget about it....go forth and go live a fully normal life.".

It was never mentioned again over the. next thirty years of flying physicals.

Torquetalk, you may not have noted though as demonstrated via an Australian Senator there are still pilots who are being forced to take the ‘vaccine’ or lose their job. The whole subject is up for debate.

Yes, I noted your example. And of course it is clearly wrong if true as presented. There are four approved Covid vaccines in Australia. If you don't want an mRNA one, there are two others using more traditional vaccine methodology.

Why does anyone need a vaccine ?

Because it stops you getting covid and transmitting the virus.... oh no, hold on, it does neither :ugh:

Well if you're going to be silly and troll FB, expect replies like the one below:

They live amongst us!

Jesus wept….

It might be, but in my case I initially thought I was possibly having a heart attack, for unknown reasons. As I wrote above, it was only later that I realised that wasn’t the case and that my symptoms went away after some weeks and one further trip to A & E in the interim. At that time it proved next to impossible to see a GP.

Flying Binghi, In one of your messages you have an extract:

"The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says".

You have a link to an apparent news item on this, but the link hardly looks mainstream. If accurate, news like that would be all over the place. Any other links? You might be implying, but not saying, that this 'excess' relates to vaccine side effects?? Is this what you fear?

Side effects, including fatalities in worst case, from at least some COVID vaccines have been made public since early in the pandemic. As [email protected] had also already written, for most people where I live, they have decided the risk(s) related to vaccines are outweighed by the benefits of preventing the worst effects of COVID itself. The 'excess death rate' from COVID itself wouldn't be trivial in some countries, but I haven't searched for the stats. Perhaps you can do that and share them with us?

Why would you expect it in the mainstream media?

Neither is Twitter, look how that worked out

Says the guy who got 3 shots and still got covid

Well we can agree on that...

Der - it doesn't stop you getting it - it just minimises its effects

helicrazi, you have been given the reasons why people still chose to be vaccinated. They are valid and reasonable. If you don’t accept the reasons, that’s up to you. If you are possessed of a different bigger understanding, good luck. Meanwhile can we get back to real evidence of severe side effects from Covid vaccines. Which vaccines, which side effects; credible accounts or credibly reported real research, not fringe journalism.

By the way, did you know that the “big pharma” behind the Pfizer mRNA vaccine was actually a virologist couple who had been working on oncology treatments using mRNA technology for ten years? Not big pharma at all. Pfizer is just the partner company because the developing company (BioNTech) weren’t big enough to produce and distribute the vaccine. Your assumptions in at least this respect are quite wrong.

Now you are confusing mrna technology and the covid vaccine. The virologist couple did not invent mrna technology but they were developing it in their oncology field.