Originally Posted by 212man (Post 10658983)

Exactly - bite your tongue/count to ten and then transmit concisely and professionally and then bring any grievance up later by phone.

Originally Posted by Tom Bangla (Post 10659690)

Do you have any idea how much fuel is burned by counting to 10?

Originally Posted by Tom Bangla (Post 10659690)

Do you have any idea how much fuel is burned by counting to 10?

Originally Posted by Bell_ringer (Post 10659745)

Posing with a shotgun and bottle of fizz in front of an uber just isn't as instagramable :}

Originally Posted by Helibabe1 (Post 10659562)

Correct! Lived every day of it by his side, as have a lot of others. I cannot comment specifically and so I wont be.

Originally Posted by cattletruck (Post 10659702)

This is a truly awful statement that is unqualified and based on ignorance and a sense of self aggrandisement. I'm familiar with Joel's business and he is truly a remarkable chap who has hard won the privileges he now enjoys. I wouldn't be surprised if Joel has made similar clangers along his own career path. Punishing people with their livelihood because they didn't satisfy you on that day is not how society works - no wonder she's 'shaken up'.

Originally Posted by chopjock (Post 10659278)

You do know you don't always need permission to enter an ATZ right?

Originally Posted by Helibabe1 (Post 10659309)

There’s two sides to consider with this story guys.. it’s not all it seems

JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and (1)most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man (2)we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.

His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.

The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller (3)which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.

However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!

The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. (4)She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!

(5)This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!

Originally Posted by Gustosomerset (Post 10659878)

I have no knowledge of any of the people involved, but this story seems a great illustration of how - in the age of online 'journalism' 'and social media - what seems to be true almost always Trumps (intended) what is true. In this context, in this country, it's surely simply never a good idea to post an image of yourself in front of your helicopter holding a gun and a bottle of champagne. I say 'in this country' because I think the image would connote something quite different in the U.S.
There, you might expect: "There's a successful guy, enjoying the fruits of his success to the full! Good on ya, buddy!"
Here it's: "What a massive d*ckhead. If he ever steps out of line, I'm calling the authorities."

Compound this with allowing it to be known that you own an Aston Martin and a motorbike and having yourself recorded saying: "​​​​I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay..." and your situation is pretty irredeemable, whatever the facts of the case and however much of a great guy you really are.

Originally Posted by visibility3miles (Post 10659641)

315B


My comment on the champagne and helicopter was meant as humor, not to imply he actually drank before flying.

Clearly it is a "Look at me!" photo intended to show off his hobbies and achievements.

Originally Posted by jumpseater (Post 10659800)

So you’ve not heard the recordings like you said you had.

You’re also commenting specifically on this event despite you saying your not going to.....

Originally Posted by Helibabe1 (Post 10660012)

I’ve said I’m not commenting specifically on the recording as there is a regulatory procedure pending in the next few days.. precisely why JTobias isn’t commenting himself. He is FULLY aware of my comments and he knows I have first hand experience of the matter concerning him, as do the entire team of helicopter pilots who are fully supporting him online and in person of which I am part of in my own right as a heli pilot since 2009. The newspapers don’t show the 10 mins leading up to the comments made and he is not disputing what he did was wrong. The fine wasn’t for the radio call, it was for the infringement. The priority now is to get the license reinstated forthwith as his flying capability is without question exceptional.

Originally Posted by Helibabe1 (Post 10660005)

what a ridiculous comment.. on that basis, nearly ALL photographs on social media including Facebook and Instagram are “Look at me” photos. And why can’t he post photos of a nice day out? Do you? I certainly do.
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!

Originally Posted by Helibabe1 (Post 10660005)

what a ridiculous comment.. on that basis, nearly ALL photographs on social media including Facebook and Instagram are “Look at me” photos. And why can’t he post photos of a nice day out? Do you? I certainly do.
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!

Originally Posted by Nige321 (Post 10660025)

If it was private it couldn't have been stolen, could it.
And if it was, doesn't say a lot for a cybersecurity specialist...:}