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John Eacott 28th Aug 2019 08:39

El Cajon 'troubled' landing by TV helicopter
 
ABC10


EL CAJON, Calif. (KGTV) - A news helicopter had what County of San Diego officials called a “troubled” landing in El Cajon Tuesday.

The incident with the Bell 206B helicopter was reported about 2:15 p.m. in the parking area of Gillespie Field at 681 Kenney St., Santee Fire reported.

Video recorded by the news helicopter appears that it was a normal landing in which the helicopter skids land on a movable platform called a dolly. The dolly can then be pulled into a hangar. It seems from the last seconds of the video clip that one of the helicopter skids may have missed the platform and the chopper then tipped over.

When emergency crews arrived, the helicopter was on its side.

The pilot was not hurt but the passenger was taken to the hospital with minor injuries, officials said.

Hazardous Materials teams were notified of a small fire and fuel spill, according to the County.

"The aircraft rolled over while landing, caught fire and sustained substantial damage. The degree of damage means this will be classified as an accident," said FAA spokesperson Ian McGregor.

The FAA and NTSB will investigate the landing.

The news helicopter is operated by a third party and shared by five San Diego media outlets, including 10News.
Video report in the ABC10 link :ok:

industry insider 28th Aug 2019 12:26

I have never liked trolleys, Dollies or anything else on wheels as a landing platform.

SASless 28th Aug 2019 13:18

Unless they are plenty large enough and have solid locking brakes on them.....agreed.

FH1100 Pilot 28th Aug 2019 18:54

Agreed......especially ir you're not even a good enough pilot to put a damn 206 on a dolly without falling off.

Rotor George 28th Aug 2019 19:13

And since they are media it's described as a "troubled landing". :mad:

krypton_john 28th Aug 2019 21:55

At least it wasn't a "challenged" landing...

newfieboy 28th Aug 2019 22:03


Ascend Charlie 28th Aug 2019 22:06

But did they move the dolly away from the school and hospital before the crash? That makes the pilot a hero.

Dollies have always been a challenge - make it big enough to reduce all risks, and it weighs a ton, costs a fortune to build, and takes up too much space in the hangar. And a big strong trolley has big wheels, which increase the falling risk for those working up on the deck. And make sure you don't put a lip on it, they are famous for catching a skid and rolling the bird over.

gulliBell 28th Aug 2019 22:34

It's not difficult. Lots of choices. Don't take up much space in the hangar at all.
https://www.aero-access.com/catalog/...s.html?ps=1000

nomorehelosforme 28th Aug 2019 22:57

Dolly landing accidents
 
These accidents are not uncommon and there have been some horrific accidents(some discussed on this forum)

As per gulliBell link there are some way safer options, especially if you are landing on terra firma and need to move to a hangar etc.

When it comes refueling/reloading spraying liquid at least you have a pad that won’t slip away from you!

industry insider 29th Aug 2019 00:14


Some days 100 plus landings. Does it count as a dolley
In some ways yes, albeit a more stable one.

megan 29th Aug 2019 00:35

Far more preferable to land on these sort of dollies, but they too can be unstable.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....884638c51e.jpg

nomorehelosforme 29th Aug 2019 00:42


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 10556651)
It's not difficult. Lots of choices. Don't take up much space in the hanger at all.
https://www.aero-access.com/catalog/...s.html?ps=1000


Nothing for a 135? Have one coming that needs to be moved around on the ground

nomorehelosforme 29th Aug 2019 00:47


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10556698)
Far more preferable to land on these sort of dollies, but they too can be unstable.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....884638c51e.jpg

And can be as expensive as a nice Helicopter... treat them both with respect and enjoy the the rewards.

gulliBell 29th Aug 2019 04:10

I think that dollie is the Vietnamese version, shouldn't be all that expensive.

Sir Niall Dementia 29th Aug 2019 10:59


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 10556769)
I think that dollie is the Vietnamese version, shouldn't be all that expensive.

And may not be quite the dollie you expect!

SND

SASless 29th Aug 2019 11:08

Megan is a trouble maker!

Except for some family issues....I would have happily retired in Vietnam.

During my two Tourist trips there, where I found the people to be far more friendly than my first two trips, I discovered the Ladies are every bit as pretty as they were in 1968-1970.

However, I am betting they are just as mercenary and cold hearted as their Western sisters when they decide to be rid of you.

But.....that a ride that could be a good one while it lasts!

One thing is for sure....when you make one of them smile....their countenance is a joy to behold!

tottigol 29th Aug 2019 19:44


Originally Posted by Sir Niall Dementia (Post 10557013)
And may not be quite the dollie you expect!

SND

That would be more applicable to a Thai product if I am following your line of thought correctly.


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