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Old 28th Aug 2019, 08:39
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El Cajon 'troubled' landing by TV helicopter

ABC10

EL CAJON, Calif. (KGTV) - A news helicopter had what County of San Diego officials called a “troubled” landing in El Cajon Tuesday.

The incident with the Bell 206B helicopter was reported about 2:15 p.m. in the parking area of Gillespie Field at 681 Kenney St., Santee Fire reported.

Video recorded by the news helicopter appears that it was a normal landing in which the helicopter skids land on a movable platform called a dolly. The dolly can then be pulled into a hangar. It seems from the last seconds of the video clip that one of the helicopter skids may have missed the platform and the chopper then tipped over.

When emergency crews arrived, the helicopter was on its side.

The pilot was not hurt but the passenger was taken to the hospital with minor injuries, officials said.

Hazardous Materials teams were notified of a small fire and fuel spill, according to the County.

"The aircraft rolled over while landing, caught fire and sustained substantial damage. The degree of damage means this will be classified as an accident," said FAA spokesperson Ian McGregor.

The FAA and NTSB will investigate the landing.

The news helicopter is operated by a third party and shared by five San Diego media outlets, including 10News.
Video report in the ABC10 link
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 12:26
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I have never liked trolleys, Dollies or anything else on wheels as a landing platform.
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Unless they are plenty large enough and have solid locking brakes on them.....agreed.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 18:54
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Agreed......especially ir you're not even a good enough pilot to put a damn 206 on a dolly without falling off.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:13
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And since they are media it's described as a "troubled landing".
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 21:55
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At least it wasn't a "challenged" landing...
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Errrrrrrrr
Some days 100 plus landings. Does it count as a dolley....🤷*♂️
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 22:06
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But did they move the dolly away from the school and hospital before the crash? That makes the pilot a hero.

Dollies have always been a challenge - make it big enough to reduce all risks, and it weighs a ton, costs a fortune to build, and takes up too much space in the hangar. And a big strong trolley has big wheels, which increase the falling risk for those working up on the deck. And make sure you don't put a lip on it, they are famous for catching a skid and rolling the bird over.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 22:34
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It's not difficult. Lots of choices. Don't take up much space in the hangar at all.
https://www.aero-access.com/catalog/...s.html?ps=1000
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Smile Dolly landing accidents

These accidents are not uncommon and there have been some horrific accidents(some discussed on this forum)

As per gulliBell link there are some way safer options, especially if you are landing on terra firma and need to move to a hangar etc.

When it comes refueling/reloading spraying liquid at least you have a pad that won’t slip away from you!

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Some days 100 plus landings. Does it count as a dolley
In some ways yes, albeit a more stable one.
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Far more preferable to land on these sort of dollies, but they too can be unstable.


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Old 29th Aug 2019, 00:42
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
It's not difficult. Lots of choices. Don't take up much space in the hangar at all.
https://www.aero-access.com/catalog/...s.html?ps=1000

Nothing for a 135? Have one coming that needs to be moved around on the ground
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Originally Posted by megan
Far more preferable to land on these sort of dollies, but they too can be unstable.


And can be as expensive as a nice Helicopter... treat them both with respect and enjoy the the rewards.
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I think that dollie is the Vietnamese version, shouldn't be all that expensive.
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
I think that dollie is the Vietnamese version, shouldn't be all that expensive.
And may not be quite the dollie you expect!

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Megan is a trouble maker!

Except for some family issues....I would have happily retired in Vietnam.

During my two Tourist trips there, where I found the people to be far more friendly than my first two trips, I discovered the Ladies are every bit as pretty as they were in 1968-1970.

However, I am betting they are just as mercenary and cold hearted as their Western sisters when they decide to be rid of you.

But.....that a ride that could be a good one while it lasts!

One thing is for sure....when you make one of them smile....their countenance is a joy to behold!
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Originally Posted by Sir Niall Dementia
And may not be quite the dollie you expect!

SND
That would be more applicable to a Thai product if I am following your line of thought correctly.
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