Helitech International 2019
Will be held at Farnborough 5 - 7 Nov and every 2 years thereafter; now re-maned 'Verical Flight Expo'
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Shame....Duxford is a much nicer place!
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Agree with SASless Duxford was great, so too was Redhill.
Have just looked at the website and on the page how to get there, it mentions by air..... go to Heathrow or Gatwick. For private flights it says check back later ??? So have they decided if helicopter owners can visit direct to Farnborough ? |
Originally Posted by helipixman
(Post 10538991)
Agree with SASless Duxford was great, so too was Redhill.
Have just looked at the website and on the page how to get there, it mentions by air..... go to Heathrow or Gatwick. For private flights it says check back later ??? So have they decided if helicopter owners can visit direct to Farnborough ? The BHA who organise it are based at Fairoaks so why not have it there? |
I bet the landing fees will be eye watering!
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Originally Posted by muffin
(Post 10539246)
I bet the landing fees will be eye watering!
There's a large oval parking area on disused Taxiway 'G' we used to call 'The Pit' ('cos it was where weapons were loaded) which would be suitable; I used it back in the '70s for circuits in a Wessex with OC Flying as my instructor. It's big enough for a C5 Galaxy. |
Originally Posted by muffin
(Post 10539246)
I bet the landing fees will be eye watering!
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How much is a landing fee for a helicopter at Farnborough ?
In the days of Duxford, some days 80 to 100 helicopters arrived and additional demo flights. If that happens at Farnborough are Reed really going to stump up that much ? Possibly a limit will be placed on how many arrivals each day ? |
Originally Posted by helipixman
(Post 10561864)
How much is a landing fee for a helicopter at Farnborough ?
In the days of Duxford, some days 80 to 100 helicopters arrived and additional demo flights. If that happens at Farnborough are Reed really going to stump up that much ? Possibly a limit will be placed on how many arrivals each day ? |
Is anyone intending to visit or exhibit? There are no OEM’s present, only one helicopter operator exhibiting, nearly 50% of the floor space still not sold and no static aircraft from what I can see. |
212man Yes I did read the post above mine which did'nt tell me how much the landing fees will cost Reed each time a helicopter lands. If like I say 100 visitors want to arrive that could cost Reed thousands ?
The whole event sounds like a waste of time. As the post above from Chris P Bacon (Yes I did read it) suggests no static helicopters ? if you like to see helicopters like me I will not be going. I just cannot be bothered travelling that far just to see various bits of tech without the Heli part. Maybe they should call it Tech International 2019. Are you traveling all the way from Nigeria ? |
Originally Posted by Chris P Bacon
(Post 10562634)
Is anyone intending to visit or exhibit? There are no OEM’s present, only one helicopter operator exhibiting, nearly 50% of the floor space still not sold and no static aircraft from what I can see. cheers |
Not many heli’s going as the landing is free but you need 20 million liability insurance not many private owners will pay for the extra insurance |
Nice and quiet on flightline
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e581ddaf3.jpeg and the AW109S Gradnnew departed just before lunchtime. cheers |
anyone been today ? Was it worth going ?
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According to their press releases it was the biggest and best so far - setting the bar very high with a "fantastic atmosphere"
Anyone go and actually have a real world opinion on the first day. |
I did not go, but from what I hear very few actual helicopters there and I certainly cannot find any photos of them, apart from one of the few visitors, only two I think noted so far. There was probably lots of tech on display if that's what you are into ? They are not making it easy for visitors. Bring back Duxford or even Welitech, Redhill
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Originally Posted by helipixman
(Post 10611683)
I did not go, but from what I hear very few actual helicopters there and I certainly cannot find any photos of them, apart from one of the few visitors, only two I think noted so far. There was probably lots of tech on display if that's what you are into ? They are not making it easy for visitors. Bring back Duxford or even Welitech, Redhill
1) I gather IWM does not want Helitech back... 2) The reason behind sans OEM backing and presence it is that the organisers and the major OEMs had a falling out over the last year.. 3) Next years venue in Europe is TBT AND it may revert to be named as Helitech. Cheers |
Why doesnt Duxford want it back.
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What a lame show!
Tumbleweed blowing through the aisles. Disgruntled exhibitors. If this was a horse, you'd put it out of its misery. Of course, day 2 might be better... |
If you bothered to look into this properly you would find out you are incorrect here.I drove yesterday due to weather, flying today though, easy booking process and variable liability limits. They have my support. You all need to stop whingeing and living in the past and start supporting our industry.
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Originally Posted by G-ARZG
(Post 10611981)
What a lame show!
Tumbleweed blowing through the aisles. Disgruntled exhibitors. If this was a horse, you'd put it out of its misery. Of course, day 2 might be better... I suppose it is all down to what you want to see, the Helicopters or technology etc. I prefer to see the helicopters and would be very disappointed if I went to an airshow and there were no aircraft. Aero Expo... now thats great |
It certainly appeared smaller and quieter than previous. But some people I spoke before said they would see what this like before going to next one!. Personally I achieved as much as I would have expected, I couldn't go for full day. Managed to meet those I set out.
I think the OEM boycott also affected some of the smaller manufacturers. I would have liked to see more. Only serious IFR were going to get in yesterday due to weather, so difficult to compare with Duxford fly in ability. As this is the only UK show of this type it looks like support it or lose it. If the EHA do organise a European show it probably won't have any fly in eithe, only ac trucked in so major OEM only. i preferred this venue to Duxford and Excel, just needed more support from industry. |
I was there Wednesday and it was quiet, very quiet. But quiet shows can do business even though quite clearly not all the exhibitors were happy with their lot. I was busy for quite a few hours but would normally do at least two full days there when it was at ExCel/Duxford/Redhill.
As for tyre kickers, they were certainly disappointed - but as we know these events are not about how many airframes there are on the ground [one R22, one R66 and two R44 inside plus 2 quadcopters inside and one coastguard aircraft outside]. From my point of view it severely restricted the photo opportunities that might lead to an interesting write up that might entice more exhibitors to attend in the future. After all the furore put up by people on here not being able to attend Helitech because it was off airfield [ExCel] the organisers take it out into aviation territory and no-one flies in! Yes, I read the reason why above but it makes it no less palatable. Certainly mixed opinions among exhibitors who ended up talking amongst themselves. Again not necessarily a bad thing. Some odd rumours about 2020 including "Aberdeen in September" ..... That rumour was not researched simply because if the exhibitors this years were not happy overall with their lot there will be no Vertical Flight anywhere. Few of the exhibitors will have known the total worth of the event until this afternoon so the jury is still out. There is no such thing as a bad show unless it is difficult to get to and much too expensive. Money is the decider. Another rumour to chew over is that Reed the organisers prefer not to use temporary buildings and that is why they rejected Duxford and will not take up with several other venues. Odd that because this year Vertical Flight was held in one of the few 'proper' buildings at Farnborough and right alongside the bases for dozens of the temporary buildings that the Air Show is famous for using. |
Originally Posted by PANews
(Post 10613037)
After all the furore put up by people on here not being able to attend Helitech because it was off airfield [ExCel] the organisers take it out into aviation territory and no-one flies in! Yes, I read the reason why above but it makes it no less palatable.
. They certainly didn't make it 'easy' to fly in.. In order to fly in you needed to give info like qualifications, type and registration (all fine with that) to the outfit arranging the flying for the event. Once submitted, you were to be sent an indemnity (never received, so can't comment on the £20m liability limit but) which had to be signed by your insurer. What has happened to a copy of your certificate being sufficient? Then, once all that was done, you had to obtain PPR 24 hours in advance of your intended visit directly from TAG Farnborough. And only then would you be sent joining instructions. Maybe I am unrealistic but I couldn't be bothered, especially when I was never sent the indemnity. |
Here is a promotional video for the show, mainly interviewing exhibitors, but at around 1.10 on the video you get a glimpse of one of the aisles..... it doesn’t look very busy! https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/r...9-day-2-video/ |
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