Midair Collision Near Waddesdon
BBC reports midair collision between light aircraft and helicopter near Waddesdon, Bucks.
This from Bucks & MK Fire Brigade - Firefighters currently assisting other emergency services at scene of air accident near Waddesdon. Air Accidents Investigation Branch informed. Disruption to road network around Waddesdon likely for the rest of the day |
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No further details yet but a beautiful day to be flying around here. |
Waddesdon Midair
A helicopter and plane have crashed mid-air in Buckinghamshire.
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www. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42024712
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It's always busy near WCO and I know I've been guilty in the past of paying too much attention to pointing passengers at the Rothschild palace and not enough to a sharp lookout.
Hoping against the odds for a positive outcome. |
BBC link: Aircraft and helicopter in 'mid-air crash' near Aylesbury Aircraft and helicopter in 'mid-air crash' near Aylesbury - BBC News
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FR24 shows G-JAMM over there on playback around midday – tracked from Wycombe Air Park, nothing else 'light' on radar at their alt at the time tho.
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A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7 Fingers crossed for survivors |
Rolling BBC updates: Updates: 'Mid-air crash' in Buckinghamshire - BBC News
Both aircraft came from Wycombe Air Park. |
Shall we stop posting Aircraft Registrations that were near at the time based on totally incomplete data. Friends and families of the victims and of aircraft not involved could very well be reading this. Posting Registrations until comfirmed will only add unnecessary anguish.
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Originally Posted by rattle
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No further details yet but a beautiful day to be flying around here. |
You've lost me there, sorry.
Is it legal to fly over a crash site? |
Originally Posted by rattle
(Post 9960022)
Is it legal to fly over a crash site?
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Originally Posted by rattle
(Post 9960022)
You've lost me there, sorry.
Is it legal to fly over a crash site? |
Originally Posted by rattle
(Post 9960022)
You've lost me there, sorry.
Is it legal to fly over a crash site? To begin with, yes. But a temporary restriction will be imposed as soon as the incident is known, and then it is prohibited until the Temporary Danger Area is withdrawn. The NOTAM reads: Q) EGTT/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5149N00054W003 B) FROM: 17/11/17 13:15C) TO: 17/11/17 17:00 E) TEMPORARY DANGER AREA. SAROPS OFF. NO RESTRICTIONS ON FREQUENCIESOWING TO AN EMERGENCY AT UPPER WINCHENDON ATEMPORARY DANGER AREA TO BE KNOWN AS EG D199V HAS BEEN ESTABLISHEDBY A CIRCLE RADIUS 3NM CENTRED ON 5149N 00054W. TO ENSURE THEIROWN SAFETY AND TO AVOID INTERFERENCE WITH CONTROL AND SARACTIVITIES, PILOTS ARE URGENTLY REQUESTED NOT TO FLY IN OR NEAR THEAREA WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF AERONAUTICAL RESCUE AND COORDINATIONCENTRE (EMERGENCY CONTROLLING AUTHORITY) TELEPHONE 01343 836001 /01343836002. PILOTS ARE FURTHER WARNED THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ATANY TIME TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS OF FLYING REGULATIONS UNDER ARTICLE239 OF THE AIR NAVIGATION ORDER 2016. ATC UNITS CLOSE TO THEINCIDENT AREA ARE REQUESTED TO ADVISE AIRCRAFT ON THEIR FREQUENCIESOF THE CONTENTS OF THIS NOTAM.LOWER: SFC UPPER: 3000FT AMSL |
I think Rattle meant in the sense that it has been unbelievably clear today. I thought this morning it would be a great day for flying. Shame it’s not ended too great for some, by the sounds of it.
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I agree, please do not post "possible" aircraft registrations! What purpose is that thoughtless action supposed to achieve?
I've just received a phone call from a very worried close relative as it is. |
Sad news, tracking the news helicopter circling overhead right now. I agree with JJJ best not speculate into what no one knows right now.
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Sky news photo shows wreckage of a white helicopter with an enclosed tail rotor.
https://news.sky.com/story/plane-and...shire-11130285 |
An aerial news photo just showed the helicopter wreckage; shows a white Fenestron of Eurocopter design.
EDIT: I just had a second look at the photo (I purposely didn't say EC120 so as to not alarm anyone unnecessarily). It's not a Eurocopter; it's a very similarly-shaped "smaller" helicopter. Sadly, doesn't look good. |
Don’t over react children. I got what he meant. He was saying poor weather was unlikely to be involved
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The Mail is confirming G-JAMM
Helicopter and plane collide mid-air in Buckinghamshire | Daily Mail Online |
Ident of fixed wing aircraft involved clearly visible on BBC News photo (not allowed to post links yet but check out the BBC News website).
Looks like the earlier poster was right. Similarly, the helicopter previously mentioned was crossing the same spot on FR24 and suddenly stopped. Very sad. |
Indeed. The first question that seems to get asked on here, or the first opinion points at weather. The visibility today was perfect so it seemed worth mentioning before anybody not local asked or looked it up.
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BBC photo now shows a photo of the crash site, the aeroplane reg is plain to see
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The BBC aerial footage is concentrating on the tail section of a Cessna (172?) which appears severed from the fuselage.
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Originally Posted by jellycopter
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The BBC aerial footage is concentrating on the tail section of a Cessna (172) which appears severed from the fuselage.
WACG is a 152. Helicopter is a Cabri. |
Heli crash site looks very contained from the pics
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Originally Posted by oversteer
(Post 9959995)
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7 Fingers crossed for survivors |
From the pictures it looks like a Cabri from Helicopter Services Ltd at Wycombe air park
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It's notamed as a DANGER Area
not a Prohibition nor a Restriction (the danger being midair collision presumably) there is a warning PILOTS ARE FURTHER WARNED THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ATANY TIME TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS OF FLYING REGULATIONS UNDER ARTICLE239 and a request (understandably) not to overfly very sad for all concerned |
We lost one of the industries gentlemen today.
God speed |
We sure did. At least I managed to share a cuppa with him yesterday.
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Originally Posted by oversteer
(Post 9959995)
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7 Fingers crossed for survivors |
Fixed wing aircraft have such a limited field of view, you don't want to end up near and beneath one. They will never see you so best to keep far away and to let them know you are around.
Hope they get to see another day, sounds like such a avoidable situation. Training flights gone wrong? |
I think we are at the point where we need TCAS ( or similar ) mandatory . The skies will only get more crowded with the airspace grab and we will have more and more pinch points . A very very sad day for us all .
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RIP to one of the rotorworlds truest nicest gentlemen, and one of the most experienced in the UK. I will miss you.
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Really bad reporting from so called aviation “experts” on the sky news.
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