German Tiger down in Mali
A german Tiger crashed and burned in Mali, both pilots dead :-(
Eilmeldung: Zwei deutsche Soldaten in Mali ums Leben gekommen | tagesschau.de Assumed technical defect - no further details, only eye witnesses (second helicopter in the area) RIP |
According to Der Spiegel, the crew of a second Tiger following the crashed helicopter reported that they suddenly went into a steep dive and hit the ground at high speed, without any kind of radio communication or distress call. The crash occured after 70 kilometers of flight while en route to a mission area where fighting on the ground was reported about 150 kilometers from the base, which is why enemy action currently is considered unlikely.
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According to the latest news, the Tiger was in cruise flight ( 135kts 1800ft Gnd) when the nose dropped suddenly and the helicopter crashed 10 seconds later. During the dive the mainrotorblades detached. The crash was not survivable.
skadi |
Mechanical failure? Suicidal pilot (not a first I'm afraid)? Apparently no hostile fire reported.
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Has the Tiger got a movable horizontal stabiliser like the Apache?
A runaway on that would give sudden undemanded pitch down. |
surely the horizontal stab could be overcome from flight controls? i.e. it wouldn't create an uncontrollable dive!!!
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 9856751)
Has the Tiger got a movable horizontal stabiliser like the Apache?
A runaway on that would give sudden undemanded pitch down. No, it's fixed. skadi |
surely the horizontal stab could be overcome from flight controls? i.e. it wouldn't create an uncontrollable dive!!! Thanks Skadi - maybe an AFCS or Hyd malfunction. |
No, it's fixed. skadi |
German helicopter lost rotors before Mali crash - report | World | Reuters
BERLIN (Reuters) - A German military helicopter that crashed while flying a peacekeeping mission in Mali began to break up while in flight, losing its rotor, according to a defence ministry report seen by Reuters. Two crew members were killed when one of Germany's four Tiger helicopters crashed in the West African nation's desert north last month. At the time, German officials said there were no signs it was downed by an attack. An in-air break-up could point to maintenance or manufacturing issues having contributed to the crash, although the report said it was too early to speculate about the causes of the crash. "According to information available so far, once the vehicle had started to descend, parts of the aircraft broke off, including the main rotor blades," the ministry report said, adding that the flight had proceeded normally until then. The deployment of the Tiger helicopters to Mali earlier this year was controversial since the aircraft, made by Airbus, required extra maintenance given the high heat and other environmental conditions in the desert country but officials said at the time the four vehicles had been performing normally. The report said the aircraft had been flying at 250 kilometres (155 miles) per hour at a height of 550 metres (1,800 feet) when it "suddenly sank its nose and entered a sharp dive." The helicopter crashed 10 seconds later and burst into flame. Germany agreed to deploy the four Tiger and four NH-90 transport helicopters to Mali earlier this year after the Dutch military said it could not continue the work. But Germany's increased support was heavily debated in parliament, and required a waiver from the German military allowing the helicopters to operate in higher temperatures. German armed forces operate a fleet of 27 of the helicopters. Reporting by Sabine Siebold; Writing by Thomas Escritt; Editing by Sandra Maler |
Does the Tiger transmission / rotor system have any commonality with the EC225?
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Originally Posted by albatross
(Post 9857198)
Does the Tiger transmission / rotor system have any commonality with the EC225?
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Originally Posted by Flying Bull
(Post 9857400)
No, EC225 has five blades, the Tiger only four
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The stabilator on the Blackhawk
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 9856828)
it happened in the Blackhawk ISTR.
Thanks Skadi - maybe an AFCS or Hyd malfunction. |
I hear that Australia has grounded their Tigers now too...
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According to the Australian news Airbus has requested that they be grounded.
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I just heard that Bell's marketing guy broke his ankle trying to get down to Canberra so fast...
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Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 9857076)
Maybe it failed - it would not be the first time on an AH/EC/AS/SA product.
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Yeap ... and Bell helicopters just grounded the whole US fleet of Bell 407 after the fatal crash of such a police helicopter in Charlottesville last week-end.
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Originally Posted by Mee3
(Post 9863593)
You anger is qualified to join the dark side.
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