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tartare 28th Jun 2017 09:07

Helicopter noise in films
 
Is it just me?
I see something in a movie that is clearly powered by a gas turbine and has a high velocity rotor system.
It should make a noise like a powerful fixed wing light plane (as does a 500) or even a light turboprop.
Sometimes said chopper even has a fenestron - and we all know what that sounds like.
But some goddam lazy foley artist has dubbed in either:
*the sound of a UH-1, or even worse
*a Bell 47!
Maybe I'm getting anal in my old age?
But to my ears - your modern helicopter sounds a darn sight better.
Why can't they get it right!!!

heliduck 28th Jun 2017 09:20

Now you've spoilt my movie going experience! I guess the moon buggy in "Armageddon" wasn't really a V8?
At least Vin Diesels stunts in the F&F movies are real.

Avtrician 28th Jun 2017 09:21

Along with the revving up as it lift off.

Another thing that gets me, is the starting of a C130, that sounds like a DC3 with low compression.

tartare 28th Jun 2017 09:33

Yes!!!
To my ear, there's nothing more poetic than the high energy electric whine of a starter motor, the ticking of injectors and then that "whoosh" as the gas lights in the can...

Flying Binghi 28th Jun 2017 11:58

"Electric whine..." Bah, humbug..;)

What were that Rusky machine with the radials hanging off either side - a Kamov ? Now i reckon that woulda been a sweet stereo system.

Edit to add: The YouTube vid... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xKhc77VXk




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Bell_ringer 28th Jun 2017 16:02

Airwolf sounded like a wounded elephant, or more recently, a member of Theresa May's cabinet watching the election results :cool:

albatross 28th Jun 2017 16:33

Most helicopters in films usually crash or blow up within minutes. Darn unsafe those things!

419 28th Jun 2017 19:32


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 9814633)
Yes!!!
To my ear, there's nothing more poetic than the high energy electric whine of a starter motor, the ticking of injectors and then that "whoosh" as the gas lights in the can...

If your injectors are ticking then I think you have a serious problem!

albatross 28th Jun 2017 21:05


Originally Posted by 419 (Post 9815273)
If your injectors are ticking then I think you have a serious problem!

Guess you never flew a Huey or Jetranger.

Sloppy Link 28th Jun 2017 21:34

I know quite a few pilots who are always ticking....

bob2s 28th Jun 2017 21:35

Yes,but never heard injectors ticking but heard a hell of a lot of igniter ticking!

tartare 28th Jun 2017 22:54

Er - Igniter - yeah - that's wot I meant.
But they do tick...
Slinks off in embarrassment... :ouch:

Tickle 29th Jun 2017 02:41

Sound editors annoy me with this habit of making almost all helicopters on film sound like a two-bladed Huey but they are just sound editors, not a helicopter nut like me.

More lately I've noticed they tend to edit together the sound of different machines depending on what the helicopter is doing. Eg. approaching from a distance = Huey. Fast fly by = Gazelle. Landing = Bell 407 or similar four-blader.

A lot of credit must be given to the sound editors on Blue Thunder who kept everything consistent between the three main featured helicopter types. Even when the JetRanger formates with the Gazelle during the "flight check" scene, you can hear on a good sound system that they put a lot of effort into getting it right.

Flying Bull 29th Jun 2017 02:55

http://www.polizeifliegerstaffel.de/...EC155flyby.mp3 If you need a Flyby - EC155...

tartare 29th Jun 2017 06:10

Now that sounds like a helicopter.
Interesting - three noises there.
The low frequency boom at first I assume is a shockwave ahead of the main rotor?
Then some main rotor tip noise as it flies past - and finally the noise of the fenestron?

Flying Bull 29th Jun 2017 18:39


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 9815607)
Now that sounds like a helicopter.
Interesting - three noises there.
The low frequency boom at first I assume is a shockwave ahead of the main rotor?
Then some main rotor tip noise as it flies past - and finally the noise of the fenestron?

Could well be, just recorded a low flyby
Bit you Fan find lots of Sounds in youtube...

i.e. https://youtu.be/o1SWnUDD5hw


I.e. https://youtu.be/4wHsNcvf3qA

aa777888 30th Jun 2017 01:30

The predominant noise on the outbound leg of a high speed pass is engine noise. The noise from the fenestron, while present, is quite diminished compared to engine (turbine exhaust) noise.

DonQuixote23 3rd Jul 2017 09:44

Worst I've seen (heard) is Edge of Tomorrow where they start up an old Schweizer 300 and apparently this one has a turbine...

http://2.bp.********.com/-g8q7AlzS_B...helicopter.jpg

Flying Binghi 3rd Jul 2017 10:18


Originally Posted by DonQuixote23 (Post 9819485)
Worst I've seen (heard) is Edge of Tomorrow where they start up an old Schweizer 300 and apparently this one has a turbine...

http://2.bp.********.com/-g8q7AlzS_B...helicopter.jpg

Links not working for me.

Be surprised if aviation and motorbike nut Cruise let that through...

MightyGem 3rd Jul 2017 20:25


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 9814605)
Is it just me?
I see something in a movie that is clearly powered by a gas turbine and has a high velocity rotor system.
It should make a noise like a powerful fixed wing light plane (as does a 500) or even a light turboprop.
Sometimes said chopper even has a fenestron - and we all know what that sounds like.
But some goddam lazy foley artist has dubbed in either:
*the sound of a UH-1, or even worse
*a Bell 47!
Maybe I'm getting anal in my old age?
But to my ears - your modern helicopter sounds a darn sight better.
Why can't they get it right!!!

You mean you've only just noticed? It's always been like that.


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