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bluesideoops 8th Jun 2017 02:59

Foggy Flight
 
and here folks, is how to get yourself killed!

https://video.buffer.com/v/5936153c7...ampaign=buffer

paco 8th Jun 2017 03:59

It sure is! But it looks like he has synthetic vision.

Evil Twin 8th Jun 2017 04:28

Eek
 
At least he kept his sunnies on.

Vertical Freedom 8th Jun 2017 04:37

Gold bars = added protection
 
WoW...impressive; not! :ooh:

Be it the Crocs adds extra safety; not! :rolleyes:

Kilos of Gold bars make this PIC bullet proof; not! (but I'm sure he thinks it does) :{

Synthetic vis but not at LSA.....dumber than Dog shiit :mad:

Mountain flying is eXtreme to say the least, but this is just plain stoopid :yuk:

Stay Safe & Stay Happy :)

Torquetalk 8th Jun 2017 06:05

What's the problem? He had visual reference with the floor of the helicopter all of the time.

tartare 8th Jun 2017 06:37

What type of machine is that?

EDIT: Ah - I see Bell 407GX

bluesideoops 8th Jun 2017 08:04

@Torquetalk ha ha ha

love flying 8th Jun 2017 08:08

I couldn't quite see why you would wear gloves

Sir Niall Dementia 8th Jun 2017 08:46

They were nomex gloves. His fingerprints should be recognisable to aid identification. DNA is often really badly damaged in post impact fires..........

SND

Max Contingency 8th Jun 2017 08:57

Words fail me. I wonder if he thinks that when the fancy screen says 'game over' you can put another 25c in and try again

212man 8th Jun 2017 09:05

Interesting that it was originally on another forum and that the youtube video has been removed! foggy helicopter flight :: Just Helicopters

SAR driver 8th Jun 2017 09:14


Originally Posted by Sir Niall Dementia (Post 9796281)
They were nomex gloves. His fingerprints should be recognisable to aid identification. DNA is often really badly damaged in post impact fires..........

SND

Nice reply! 😄

Impress to inflate 8th Jun 2017 09:17

Bell End.....:ugh:

jimcarler 8th Jun 2017 09:35

What a clown - hopefully there was no one else up there with him

Sir Niall Dementia 8th Jun 2017 09:45


Originally Posted by SAR driver (Post 9796311)
Nice reply! 😄

I aim to please:E

McDoo 8th Jun 2017 09:59

And here he is, next year's winner of the prestigious Darwin Award..

412pilot 8th Jun 2017 12:25

Famous last words:
Let's press on, the weather is clearing :)

rotorfan 8th Jun 2017 12:30

Yikes! Took me all of 4 seconds to reach TAS (tightened arse syndrome). No slowing due the reduced vis. Must have had a tee time to make. Or tea time. Agree with McDoo, candidate for Darwin Award.

HeliHenri 8th Jun 2017 12:41

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Keep in mind he's a pro with maybe 5 pax at the back ...:ugh:
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md 600 driver 8th Jun 2017 12:53

the video just stopped is that when he crashed!!!!!

RVDT 8th Jun 2017 20:20

Piece of cake - just keep the red stuff out of the pictures!!

cyclic flare 8th Jun 2017 21:22

At 100 hours I thought I knew it all ... at 500 hours I knew I knew it all... at 5000 hours that frigthens the life out of me

the coyote 9th Jun 2017 03:29

He'd be buggered if that little screen went black.....

VegasRobbiedvr 9th Jun 2017 13:14

That's not the entire video...in the complete video, he breaks out in the clear headed toward a coastal region...IT IS A VERY STUPID THING TO DO, I do not think he was in a mountainous region from the start, maybe rolling terrain...I do think this guy has flown this route many times giving him too much confidence...IT IS STILL A VERY STUPID THING TO ATTEMPT EVEN WITH THE AVIONICS HE SO TRUSTS!!!

[email protected] 9th Jun 2017 14:56

And as the Irish SAR thread highlighted - it only takes one obstacle not in your database to kill you.

Wires, masts, a mobile crane at a building site, someone putting up a wind turbine etc etc etc

Darwinian selection in action - eventually dumb luck runs out.

cpt mayhem 9th Jun 2017 15:53

wow he looks like he is wearing crocs as well, snappy dresser.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 9th Jun 2017 16:13

Waste of a nice headset too. Unless it survives the inevitable accident........

NEO

EESDL 10th Jun 2017 03:21

Why did he keep looking outside? - his scan should have reverted?
I noticed his screen went red for a moment - and his pants brown?
I thank him for putting it video - lowered some of my personal dumb-ass stuff down the ladder a couple of rungs.

Heliringer 10th Jun 2017 03:38


Originally Posted by EESDL (Post 9798073)
Why did he keep looking outside? - his scan should have reverted?
I noticed his screen went red for a moment - and his pants brown?
I thank him for putting it video - lowered some of my personal dumb-ass stuff down the ladder a couple of rungs.

I look out as part of my scan.
Crazy situation to put himself in but he kept it straight and level, broke through and went home.
Personally I would have waited at the departure point.

SASless 10th Jun 2017 14:01

As a dedicated Scunrudder.....having worked in locales that meant you did or you went broke.....I learned how to do it safely.....well as safely possible.....this video shows me two things......one being having all the Gucci kit is nice and if you rely on it as a primary method of flying fast with no forward vis....you better have no Suicide Clause in your Life Insurance Policy.

Hughes500 10th Jun 2017 14:58

Well best summed by my daughter who is studying for her CPL " I can't watch that as I don't want to see a crash "

EESDL 10th Jun 2017 17:10

Hell ringer - correct - a visual scan is outside with a regular inside on the T&Ps etc.
in fog it should be the other way round - with the odd check outside ......
I guess if he had ap in then no worries - keep on trekking til you either hit something or breakout.
Not sure which rules he was following as I don't think any exist for what he did - but back to the issue of why post the video?
Please don't tell me he was 'caught out' by the weather - he could see it coming from a good distance away

SASless 10th Jun 2017 18:05

Caught out?

Last time I checked....one can land a Jet Ranger most anywhere....even if there is no Pub/Tavern/Cafe/Motel Lounge Bar close by.

Flying Bull 10th Jun 2017 20:49

Well,

Seems quite common foggy flights....

https://youtu.be/LkNCvSCKoyo


[email protected] 10th Jun 2017 21:26

Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?

Flying Bull 10th Jun 2017 21:46


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 9798703)
Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?

No freaking idea - but I know, you can get caught out...

If you know, its the only powerline around, it isn't such a bad idea to keep it insight.
Turning away and approaching it later between poles would be worse....

Reminds me of a flight with NVG, hilly wooded area, pushed down by a massive rainshower.
No spot to put the bird down and Radar wasn't any help either, telling me, that I have to expect the same wether in every direction for at least 15 miles :-(
When we spotted a powerline, we stuck to it like clingfilm, even using the landing light, to illuminate the cabels between towers....while looking at the emptying fuelgage, hovering along the line...
With a 1000 NVG HRS more experience now I'm well prepared to avoid such an occurence - but at the time the task seemed legit....

[email protected] 11th Jun 2017 09:47

Yes, spotting wires and poles in the dark with the low contrast can be very difficult and the rain just makes it worse!

But they say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger:ok:

helonorth 11th Jun 2017 22:49


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 9798703)
Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?

The power lines being followed are not the ones that will kill you. It's the lines crossing up ahead, that you are blissfully unaware of.

ShyTorque 11th Jun 2017 23:06


Originally Posted by helonorth (Post 9799634)
The power lines being followed are not the ones that will kill you. It's the lines crossing up ahead, that you are blissfully unaware of.

Correct. For a number of years I had recurring nightmares after being in a helicopter flying just above wires in very poor weather, only to realise we were flying under higher HT cables above us.

John Eacott 11th Jun 2017 23:21

On the tales of wires, in a previous life flying a Twin Squirrel for a Victorian TV company the weather was getting worse and vis along with it, so the decision to go IFR for the destination required a paddock landing to get charts, etc, sorted. On touchdown, hopped out and at the end of the next paddock was an HT powerline some 150-200ft high. Never even saw it when circling for landing.

Its the ones you don't see, etc etc.


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