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bigRed87 7th Jul 2016 07:54

HEMS and Police rotation in the UK
 
Here in Norway the EMS helicopter pilots go on a alternating 1 week on, 3 weeks off and 1 week on, 2 weeks off.

Whats the rotation like in the UK?

Do they even have a rotation or do they just do scheduled flights?

Thinking about UK NPAS and other police HEMS operators.

jayteeto 7th Jul 2016 12:40

HEMS: 5 on / 2 off / 5 on / 5 off / 2 on / 4 standby / 1 off

24 day shift pattern, you always end up working 3 of the standby shifts

handysnaks 7th Jul 2016 13:00

Hello bigRed87. Can't speak for HEMS but the NPAS pilot rotation is:
2 x 12 hour day shifts
2 x 12 hour night shifts
The rest day following the last night shift
3 days off
Repeat

nowherespecial 7th Jul 2016 14:25

BigRed, just so I've inderstood, if I've read this right, you work 2 weeks in 7?!

alternating 1 week on, 3 weeks off and 1 week on, 2 weeks off.

GoodGrief 7th Jul 2016 15:05

Those should be 24 hour shifts. 7*24=168 hours. Times 2 = 336, divided by 7 comes out to an average of 48 hours/week...

bigRed87 7th Jul 2016 16:35

Yes, in Norway you are on 24/7 for one week and then you are off 2-3 weeks.

Please PM me if anyone know of any openings on a twin, I'm willing to relocate anywhere in the world.

3400hr TOT
3200hr AS350 mostly sling in mountain areas.
Finished my IR theory and taking my ME IR soon.
Currently Chief pilot in a company operating 6 AS350 and leasing 5 more in the season.

jayteeto 7th Jul 2016 17:51

I did that NPAS roster pattern for 7 years, it was brilliant, not fatiguing at all.
PS. They don't have IRs yet

Sloppy Link 7th Jul 2016 21:00

For the past year or so NPAS have made an IR a requirement for new pilots.

jayteeto 8th Jul 2016 19:44

Didn't know that, stupid question, but does an IR gain a higher wage?

handysnaks 9th Jul 2016 10:03

Fohnwind, no point comparing it with commercial offshore salaries more accurate to compare it with other onshore 'non commercial' salaries. Factor in the current state of the market and the fact that NPAS is a public sector organisation spending your tax 'dollar'!

Rotate too late 9th Jul 2016 12:06

interestingly Handy, if you do, in fact, make the comparison I'm inclined to think there's not much in it anyway. Even as an SFO I'm sure that most of the difference would be put into travel or accommodation expenses. And as for an easier job.....I'm not sure an Aberdeen winter is exactly a piece of piss.
RTL

[email protected] 9th Jul 2016 16:16

And hours of straight line transit with the AP fully coupled..........

Mustapha Cuppa 9th Jul 2016 16:23

Didn't take long, did it.

chcoffshore 9th Jul 2016 18:08


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 9434822)
And hours of straight line transit with the AP fully coupled..........

So please enlighten us all with your offshore tails from your zero O&G experience. Now off to work "wheels up couple up"!

chcoffshore 9th Jul 2016 18:10


Originally Posted by fohnwind (Post 9434796)
two crew means half the work

An actual post without knocking ex mil pilots!

handysnaks 9th Jul 2016 20:43

I did 6 years offshore and found the winters in particular, very challenging! Most of the pilots I worked with were exceptionally competent (can't speak for myself). The ladies and gents working up there deserve every shilling that they get👍.

Bravo73 9th Jul 2016 23:20


Originally Posted by chcoffshore (Post 9434907)
An actual post without knocking ex mil pilots!

Still spewing cr@p though...

Sloppy Link 9th Jul 2016 23:21

NPAS are recruiting for Redhill, St Athan and Bournemouth, closing date 10 Jul if you're quick.

MightyGem 11th Jul 2016 21:51


For the past year or so NPAS have made an IR a requirement for new pilots.
Yes. Existing pilots won't be required to get one though as NPAS can't afford to pay for the training.

I suppose that the increasing transit distances to jobs will make an IR a handy thing to have if the weather closes in on the way home. There were a few times when it would have been nice to climb up instead of groping along near minimums.

serf 12th Jul 2016 07:22

Would they be carrying enough fuel at the end of a mission to be IFR legal?


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