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Old 7th Jul 2016, 08:54
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HEMS and Police rotation in the UK

Here in Norway the EMS helicopter pilots go on a alternating 1 week on, 3 weeks off and 1 week on, 2 weeks off.

Whats the rotation like in the UK?

Do they even have a rotation or do they just do scheduled flights?

Thinking about UK NPAS and other police HEMS operators.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 13:40
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HEMS: 5 on / 2 off / 5 on / 5 off / 2 on / 4 standby / 1 off

24 day shift pattern, you always end up working 3 of the standby shifts
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Hello bigRed87. Can't speak for HEMS but the NPAS pilot rotation is:
2 x 12 hour day shifts
2 x 12 hour night shifts
The rest day following the last night shift
3 days off
Repeat
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BigRed, just so I've inderstood, if I've read this right, you work 2 weeks in 7?!

alternating 1 week on, 3 weeks off and 1 week on, 2 weeks off.
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Those should be 24 hour shifts. 7*24=168 hours. Times 2 = 336, divided by 7 comes out to an average of 48 hours/week...
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 17:35
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Yes, in Norway you are on 24/7 for one week and then you are off 2-3 weeks.

Please PM me if anyone know of any openings on a twin, I'm willing to relocate anywhere in the world.

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Old 7th Jul 2016, 18:51
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I did that NPAS roster pattern for 7 years, it was brilliant, not fatiguing at all.
PS. They don't have IRs yet
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For the past year or so NPAS have made an IR a requirement for new pilots.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 20:44
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Didn't know that, stupid question, but does an IR gain a higher wage?
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Fohnwind, no point comparing it with commercial offshore salaries more accurate to compare it with other onshore 'non commercial' salaries. Factor in the current state of the market and the fact that NPAS is a public sector organisation spending your tax 'dollar'!
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interestingly Handy, if you do, in fact, make the comparison I'm inclined to think there's not much in it anyway. Even as an SFO I'm sure that most of the difference would be put into travel or accommodation expenses. And as for an easier job.....I'm not sure an Aberdeen winter is exactly a piece of piss.
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And hours of straight line transit with the AP fully coupled..........
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Didn't take long, did it.
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And hours of straight line transit with the AP fully coupled..........
So please enlighten us all with your offshore tails from your zero O&G experience. Now off to work "wheels up couple up"!

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Originally Posted by fohnwind View Post
two crew means half the work
An actual post without knocking ex mil pilots!
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I did 6 years offshore and found the winters in particular, very challenging! Most of the pilots I worked with were exceptionally competent (can't speak for myself). The ladies and gents working up there deserve every shilling that they get👍.
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An actual post without knocking ex mil pilots!
Still spewing [email protected] though...
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NPAS are recruiting for Redhill, St Athan and Bournemouth, closing date 10 Jul if you're quick.
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For the past year or so NPAS have made an IR a requirement for new pilots.
Yes. Existing pilots won't be required to get one though as NPAS can't afford to pay for the training.

I suppose that the increasing transit distances to jobs will make an IR a handy thing to have if the weather closes in on the way home. There were a few times when it would have been nice to climb up instead of groping along near minimums.
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Would they be carrying enough fuel at the end of a mission to be IFR legal?
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