HEMS in Saudí Arabia
 

Does anybody know something about the Era contract for Hems in Arabia?

Run away and don't look back.

Mmmmmmmm .....

I would be asking ERA if they REALLY know what their getting into?


(rather then what they have been told they're getting into ... and there IS a difference).


:ugh:

Roger. Thank you. Because they're still looking for pilots for that contract.

What happened to Abu Dhabi Aviation......I thought they were running that contract?

How many companies is that, kind of like taking on the poisoned chalice that gig by the sounds of it?

Cheers

Mmmmm ...

ADA do operate the Jeddah and Riyadh bases .... long time rumour was that SRCA want another operator for the other proposed bases (???) .... like one of those 'divide to conquer' scenarios ... :=

Could be ERA have taken the bait ..... :E

ERA is looking for a PROBABLE situation.. so it remains in the probability field.

There is also a big european corporation looking for this i heard..

......And a couple of other US companies I believe...

Spinwing said it so much more eloquently than I did. Now for some more of my non eloquentness. The problem with the EMS contract in Saudi is not going to be the company you work for as they for the most part should be trying to help you get the job done. The problem is the the retards at SRCA and the country itself. The whole operation is a project of one of the princes. He gets nothing but good news from The SRCA management because it is filled with yes men. They are afraid to tell the truth. If you tell the truth you are silenced or fired. The operation would probably run a whole lot smoother if SRCA paid their bills. Any company going in with a bid better have a large cash reserve or get the money up front. They didn't pay DHL for so long that parts were being held up in customs for weeks. DHL was saying payup or you don't get the shipments. Its at the point now where the bases have to be manned even if there isn't an aircraft available at the base. If you don't man the base SRCA won't pay the bill. The entire program is all about optics and how good the princes project looks to the king. It has nothing to do with saving the lives of the citizens of Saudi. I spent a year of my life with good people trying to do a good job but in the end I had enough. The incompetence level at SRCA is just too high for me.:ugh: If you think I am a disgruntled employee, I am not. I just saw the contract going nowhere and decided to leave. If you have any specific questions then pm me.

Unbelievable! Is that one of the richest country of the world?

A wise man once said to a young, enthusiastic pilot recently arrived in the Middle East "Son - if you are here for ANYTHING other than the money then you are here for all the wrong reasons". Chill or get out.

Its a show project for the Prince. Expect to be replaced by Saudi pilots whenever there might be a TV camera nearby. The SRCA has no intention of improving itself, so if you want to sit around and get paid, it can be a great job. If you want to fly when your at work, look elsewhere.

Mmm ...

Well ... whichever companies are looking at an SRCA contract I do hope they are aware of this particular thread and have the sense to at least PM some of the more knowledgable participants so as to verify the situation BEFORE they commit ......


Good luck to any and all new players .... ;)



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Whatever any of you with experience there will say...that "large European operator" (from a southern country) will still bid on this contract! They have been reluctant to good advice for a long time...

:ugh:

Mmmm ...


Well then ... that will turn out to be their problem will it not? :E

I've searched on the web about that contract but no information. Heard of 34 helis?! Can it be?

The Saudi Red Crescent is looking for 25+ helicopters and these may be a combination of ACMI leased and SRCA operated. It will be a tough contract for whatever company wins it due to a number of issues, not the least of which are: payments, crew visas and Iqamas, bringing in spare parts, accommodations, crew training, low flight hours and crew rotation tickets. Best of luck to whatever company wins it.

Ok, thanks! Is the contract terms published online?

Heard that INAER finally got the contract. Any news?

Mmm ...

..... Heard that INAER finally got the contract. ....

Well if that IS the case ... then good luck to them ... they're going to need it :eek:






Hey have you heard the joke ...

"How can you make a small fortune ?"

... "you start off with a large one and get a contract to supply helicopters to SRCA !!"


:E

PHI ad on Facebook
 

Found this one on PHI's Facebook page:

EMS Pilot

Saudi Arabia (Saudi Arabia) - Full Time


Description

PHI Air Medical Group is seeking to fill BH 412 PIC and SIC Pilot positions in Saudi Arabia. A 28 & 28 schedule is available. Transportation and housing provided. For PIC candidates - BH 412 qualified and current preferred, if not 500 hours medium twin time required. Pilots are required to have a minimum of 2,000 hrs total (1,500 hrs helicopters), 500 PIC helicopter, 1000 hours turbine helicopters for PIC, 100 hours in unaided night operations - preferred, two years EMS experience and NVG experience preferred. 10 hours night in the past 36 months preferred. FAA Commercial and Instrument Helicopter ratings and a FAA Class I or 2 Medical required.
Interested individuals should Email resume to: [email protected]
PHI offers a competitive salary plus: 401k Plan, Safety Bonus, Life Insurance, LTD, Dental, Paid Vacation, Sick Leave, Vision Plan, Holiday Pay, Prescription Card, Bereavement Leave, EAP, Relocation, and More.
PHI is an Equal Opportunity Employer.




So who's got the contract now? INAER or PHI? Or do I mix up something here :suspect::suspect:


Greetings

Nobody has the contract yet, it is still in the bidding process.:ugh:

More like in the final negotiation phase rather than the bidding process mikelimapapa.

And it is looking more like it will be PHI. I have no idea how they can expect to fare any better than ADA who has a regional presence and can even move support items by road across the border. Good luck to them.

rumours...
 

Only rumours... or not! Is it published already??

Actually PHI got the contract, and that came from friend at ERA :}

If the pay isn't $1000 a day, then run away.

There will be no shortage of qualified pilots for this gig, yeah they won't stay long but there will be the same amount of qualified replacements behind them......fact:ugh:

You are correct. It won't be 100% turnover a year, but it will be high.

Yes, PHI is the frontrunner, but their bid is double what SRCA is currently paying ADA.....I don't see them opening the purse strings that much, especially considering the trouble ADA have collecting their money at a much lower rate

Mmm ...

Oh its going to be so interesting watching this epic unfold ...... :}

How long do you think PHI will operate without payments?

Mmmm ...

More interestingly ..... Ramadan this year begins on July 20th in the peak of the Saudi summer ... and pretty much just after the 'new contractor' would be expected to commence operations .... 3 months later 'Haj' ......

Good Luck Y'all ...... ya gunna need it ..... ;)



:E

Refer to PHI facebook

PHI Air Medical Group is seeking to fill BH 412 PIC and SIC Pilot positions in Saudi Arabia. A 28 & 28 schedule is available

PHI Air Medical Group is seeking to fill an A & P Mechanic positions in Saudi Arabia. A 28 & 28 schedule is available

PHI, Inc. | Facebook

Any update...I gather Lynn Tilton was fairly scathing at her HAI press conference ?

they say that ADA is the winner....

or looser!?

Winner or Loser?
 

I suppose it really depends upon how you look at it. When dealing with the Red Crescent the winner of the contract usually turns out to be the long term loser.:(

I don't know about the new contract, but ADA has renewed the existing one 3 more years

Regards
Aser

Actually according to someone I was talking to recently in Abu Dhabi ADA actually have to have all their machines out by the end of March. Lets see which turns out to be correct. :rolleyes: