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AW139 Accident Brasil
Very, very sorry to report AW139 accident in Brasil confirmed by Petrobras. 2 crew 2 passengers missing. Reported hydraulic problem.
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A helicopter was missing until the evening of Friday (19) in the Campos Basin, off the coast of Macae, in the northern region of Rio de Janeiro. In a statement, Petrobras said the aircraft, which provided service to the state, autotização asked for an emergency landing at the airport in Macae. Also according to Petrobras, as the helicopter arrived at the airport, was triggered emergency plan of the Campos Basin, which has already displaced boats for hunting. The FAB (Brazilian Air Force) said the aircraft made a forced landing in water. The helicopter had two crew and two passengers. Still no word on the whereabouts of the group. The Navy deployed a helicopter and a plane to make searches. The FAB also informed that the accident occurred at 17:15 this Friday. According to FAB, the helicopter took off from the P65 platform in the Campos Basin in the direction of Macaé. The distance between the platform and Macaé airport is 105 km. sad news... :( |
Yet another ADELT that didn't work as advertised. Why do we install these anyway? Have they ever worked? Sat tracking would have been more help.
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Do you know a CPI (the Agusta term for ADELT) was installed or are you speculating?
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HLCPTR: think you will find CPI is HR Smith´s terminology for their ADELT .... which happens to be fitted to the 139, as well as other aircraft .....
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My condolences to family and friends :(
Google Traductor A helicopter with two crew and two passengers disappeared on the afternoon of Friday in the region of the Campos Basin in Rio de Janeiro. According to the FAB (Brazilian Air Force), the helicopter took off at 17:15 of the P-65 Petrobras, with the direction of Macaé. However, declared an emergency to the control tower of Macaé and made a forced landing in the Atlantic Ocean, about 100 km off the coast of Rio de Janeiro. The aircraft model AW-139 Augusta, prefix PR-SEK, is the Senior Taxi Aereo. According to the NF-Sindipetro (Union Oil of North Fluminense), a passenger aboard the helicopter is an employee of another company and Brasiltest Engevix. The union says that the crew spoke to aa command tower of the airport at 16h49 asking for authorization for an emergency landing and made no further contact. He also says that rescue boats were contracted by Petrobras way there, but had difficulties to reach due to stormy seas. FAB mobilized a plane and a helicopter to carry out searches. A ship and a Navy helicopter also assist in the operation. According to Petrobras, the helicopter has requested authorization for an emergency landing at the airport in Macae, but not arrived. The company says that triggered the Emergency Plan in the Campos Basin and also went searching for the boats. The search for the helicopter was closed on Friday and should be resumed tomorrow. The oil-workers union said that "the disappearance of the aircraft comes amid a series of complaints made by the board of Sindipetro-NF, which for years has been warning about the direction of Petrobras air chaos that affects workers in the Campos Basin." The organization advocates building a new airport in the field to meet the growing demand on site. In response to the union, Petrobras said it "adopts strict security standards and requires that companies that serve it, including the air transport industry." According to a spokesperson for Petrobras, "the security of air transportation service company is deemed to be the world's best offshore operations." The company added that it operates, since last year, also flights from the new airport in Cabo Frio, and Macaé and Farol de São Tomé and that its helicopter fleet has an average age of three years. |
AW139 Accident Brasil
Malabo: they do found the wreckage site: it is the persons that are missing...
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Speculation is useless
No one knows as of yet what happen on this latest event, the 139 is a great machine. We should be prudent and wait for the report.
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the 139 is a great machine |
:confused:
Just, suppose you never := ride one..... |
PK-SEK in Rio de Janeirohttp://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...lbrz265xxx.jpg
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Petrobras Helicopter with three bodies found on the seabed According to the state they were located to 99 meters deep and 100 km from the coast Petrobras said in the late afternoon on Saturday that he found three bodies - still unidentified - and the helicopter had disappeared the previous day. According to the state they were located on the seabed at 99 m depth and 100 km from the coast. The aircraft took off on Friday P-65 platform in Campos Basin, and requested permission for an emergency landing in the Macae Airport. The Emergency Plan Petrobras' Campos Basin was triggered as soon as the control tower lost contact with the helicopter at about 17h, the state said. In all, six aircraft, two Air Force (FAB), participated in the search operation. Sixteen boats also performed research, four of them equipped with underwater robots. In a statement released in the early afternoon, Petrobras has recommended that all remain in the soil Agusta AW 139 helicopters - the same model of aircraft that had disappeared. Directors of state scheduled a meeting with representatives of the manufacturer of the helicopter, which will come from Italy. They were passengers in the helicopter Ricardo Leal de Oliveira, assistant coach Engevix planning company, and John Carlos Pereira da Silva, technical inspection of the company Brasitest, Rommel beyond the pilot and copilot Oliveira Garcia Haytzann Lauro Pinto, the Senior Air Taxi. |
:ugh:This crazie, we don't know hat happen yet.
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R.I.P. my condolences to family and friends.
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Back side of the power curve?
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My condolence to the families of the decease. I know the pilots flying out of Macea' are a very close knit group of professionals. I hope ANAC can reconstruct what happen.
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I don't know if anybody can actually read the original news reports (rather than the google translations) but I'm curious about the emergency call. Did they actually mean that they wanted an emergency landing at Macea - as implied - or was it simply a Mayday call that got mistranslated? It's hard to think that something so serious that caused them to crash 5km from departure would have prompted them to continue to Macea - another 100km?
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212man,
I have heard from another source that actually they reported that they were ditching.....not confirmed. |
Sounds more plausible - kind of what I surmised from the translation!
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Both information are correct: the first call, just after they level off at 3500ft, they report an emergency to Macae Control and asked for ground support at Macae Airport.
The controller asked him what type of emergency and he just said : HYDRAULIC After that he keep talking at the company’s radio frequency and the situation deteriorated very quickly…he keep saying that the acft was not flyable and we could hear the panic and the screaming at the background as he did keep the PTT pressed at the very last second. Very traumatic for the ones witch makes part of that... |
N&S I'm truly sorry to hear that, and my sympathies to you and your colleagues.
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The news in Brazil have just reported they found all 4 bodies... the captain Rommel have been working in off-shore for over 20 years and he survived another accident years ago.
Total of 386 AW 139 aircraft in the world now. As N&S mentioned, they reported hydraulic failure first and then ditching afterwords... Photos: AgustaWestland AW-139 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net Very said news, especially now that the off-shore industry is increasing operations in Brazil |
Thank you for your words 212 man.
I am also flying the AW139 for Petrobras but for a different company other than Senior. I 100% agree with HLCPTR that we must keep an open mind and let the helicopter (CVR and data recorder) tell us what happened. Another uncomfortable but necessary information that must be consider is that Senior Taxi Aereo is facing a very difficult time because they are short in staff – mainly maintenance. About 20 engineer/mechanics resigned in a very near past and the ones left are double shifting and reporting to be exhausted. PR-SEK was grounded because of vibration out of limits (HUMS) for three days and went back to line just three days (inclusive) before the accident. The positive news is that Petrobras grounded all AW139 under their contract until they are fully convinced about the helicopter safety. Agusta Westland sent over some specialists to make part of the investigation. The first meeting took place last Saturday and as soon as I have any further news I will keep you PPrune guys posted. |
PR-SEK: Helicopter found by ROV's with tailboom, but without TGB, somebody in a close rig saw the helicopter in fast fall...
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Originally Posted by led
PR-SEK: Helicopter found by ROV's with tailboom, but without TGB, somebody in a close rig saw the helicopter in fast fall...
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It is not just about Petrobras AWs anymore
All 18 Brazilian-registered AgustaWestland AW139s have been temporarily grounded as a precautionary measure, following a 19 August fatal accident.
The incident involved AW139, registration PR-SEK, flown by Brazilian offshore operator Senior Taxi Aéreo. It was performing a routine flight with two crew members and two passengers between Macaé airport and the Petrobrás P-65 oil rig, located 57nm (105km) from the Brazilian coast, and onward to Rio de Janeiro's Jacarepaguá airport when it crashed, shortly after departing the rig at 16:48 local time. At 16:48 the aircraft's crew declared an emergency, indicating the helicopter had experienced a hydraulic systems failure. They stated their intention to return to P-65 for an emergency landing. However, the helicopter failed to complete the journey and ditched into the sea. A combined Brazilian air force and navy rescue effort located the helicopter on 20 August, submerged at a depth of 99m and some 54nm west of the coast. There were no survivors. The Brazilian navy and Petrobrás are jointly retrieving the aircraft. The Centro de Investigação e Prevenção de Acidentes Aeronáuticos (CENIPA), Brazil's aircraft accident investigation board, will ship the engines, gearboxes and other items to the Departamento de Ciência e Tecnologia Aeroespacial's laboratories at São José dos Campos for analysi,s with the assistance of representatives from AgustaWestland and engine supplier Pratt & Whitney Canada. Immediately after the accident, Petrobrás asked Brazilian regulator Agéncia Nacional d'Avição Civil (ANAC) to issue a temporary grounding order for the type. ANAC granted the request, which affects 18 airframes divided between Senior Taxi Aéreo, OMNI Taxi Aéreo and Aeróleo Taxi Aéreo, all of which provide offshore services to Petrobrás and other oil companies. |
the source about above information
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Ok, my apologies for the inappropriate information. In this case let's wait. The helicopter will be lifted in a few days.
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This information is not right. Just the AW-139 that flys to Petrobrás are grounded in Brazil. The other contracts are flying normally.
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Rumor has it that AW will ground any 139 that has T/R blades with more than 600 hrs.
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wreckage recovery
Anyone out the know how the wreckage recovery efforts are going?:sad:
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my regards to the families and friends
it is too bad that brasil does not want to allow expats to work here until the shortage of pilots and mechanics is no longer an issue |
Im sure they will find the T/R detach !!!!!!:ugh::ugh:
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When I was doing my intial Senor Taxi had about a dozen very young R-22 pilots doing the training to become FO's.
Agusta letter just out confirms that T/R is detached from the rest of the airframe, with an explaination of how the hydraulics are suppose to work. Also a mandatory inspection of the T/R blades. Anyone still believe that the Hong Kong accident was a bird strike? |
agusta westland
AgustaWestland will never informed AW139 Customers and Operators of any follow‐on information that may emerge.Customers should stop dealing with the company until the find the result of crashes.
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Call around, and there was a meeting yesterday of all such information. I'm not in Italy, i live, work and pilot an AW-139 in Rio de Janeiro. And i lost 2 big friends. Best Regards
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T/R - 600hrs
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Dear AgustaAW139
As far as I am concern, this meeting actually took place and the information given by the Agustawestland test pilot was ipsis literis as mentioned by parnaiocas. Even though the acft still remains at the see bed (due to the bad weather) , they have the ROVs image recorder data and issued the BT as you can see above. Agustawestland just cannot afford to have another event while wait for the full report before disclose it. |
North South, "ipsis literis"? Is that Portuguese or Latin? One t or two? Had to google it myself, but good to know that the pilot community strives for a higher cultural standard.
To Savoia's simplistic matrix, this would then fall into a mechanical problem as opposed to a pilot error problem. But in true HFACS fashion, you could compare the positive outcome of the similar Hong Kong mechanical failure to the negative one here and determine why the difference. Were the pilots exposed to two different training regimes -one of which improved the outcome of a technical fault? That would be an organizational issue. |
Hey Malabo, happy to see that you goggle it….it is Latin, but widely used in English though….such as so many expressions we use in a daily basis: am, pm, per se, e.g.., etc. and….etc.:)
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