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nightskywalker 31st Aug 2011 07:08

Aegir, if you are able to find it, very well, otherwise yours are only spam messages...:hmm:

And, if it exists a tape on HK accident, we have carefully to analyze it, without alledging uncontrolled point of views.

nightskywalker 31st Aug 2011 07:12

Outwest, Sultan,

besides confirming that Weststar accident has been caused by an hard landing as consequence of a take off with a helo weight > MTOW,

the failure mode of AW139 blades are well known so far -

what we are unable to check right now if this failure mode is a consequence of a previous event - high vibrations due to an impact? Hydraulic failure? etc.

CVDR will support the root cause investigation.

Aser 9th Sep 2011 13:13

Cairns EMQ helicopter grounded - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


The Cairns helicopter was allowed to fly again last week, before it was grounded again yesterday.


granny 00 9th Sep 2011 18:20

Does anybody know if there is already some company equipped with aw139 resuming flying after tail rotor blades change?

Mark Six 9th Sep 2011 19:48

I believe CHC in Australia have a couple of machines flying EMS. They were grounded for a short while but now flying again.

noooby 10th Sep 2011 01:59

I hear there are quite a few CHC 139's flying again, but still many waiting for new blades. Even some military style blades (low viz paint) have been delivered to civilian customers to get them flying as quickly as possible!

parnaiocas 12th Sep 2011 16:08

In Brasil just the helicopters that fly to Petrobrás contracts are grounded. OMNI has contracts with REPSOL and is flying, Aeróleo has contracts with OGX and is flying too. Last week i was in Vergiatte - Italy doing the Flight simulator and i saw a lot of AW's flying normally.

Helicap 13th Sep 2011 01:22

aw139 accident Brasil
 
Helo Parnaiocas,

You was recently in Italy ?? Regarding the AW139 bonded tail and T/R, what are the Agusta engineers comments ?

Are them concerned about that parts bonded method? What they think about Agusta composite production process?

My question is due they have certificated that T/R blades for 6 thousand hours but will have to inspect that at each 300 hours ?? Doesn't make sense !:ugh:

Dexus 14th Sep 2011 03:51

Regarding the TR blade issue, I got the information that blades had been made using an interlaced fixture though, AW has been improving/modifying this fixture to fix the issue.

Anybody else got the same information?

HueyDog 14th Sep 2011 16:58

ARAMCO is getting some of its 139s back in the air as TR blades are trickling in. I think four are back in the air so far.

caaeasa 16th Sep 2011 19:54

Did they recover the helicopter?

BladeSpin 18th Sep 2011 14:01

In the hope of only gathering information, and not increasing speculation.

Is there one that can state with certainty, the status of the PCM's hydraulic levels, after the Sky Shuttle incident. I find no reference to this.

AW139 Driver 19th Sep 2011 10:20

Can anybody confirm if any AW139 canceling their orders. I have heard that Gulf Helicopters has canceled their yet to be delivered 5 AW139 which was ordered sometime last year!

9Aplus 19th Sep 2011 11:33

:cool: Let's be serious... even here...
Who is going to confirm that?! :E

Chopperlover 22nd Sep 2011 14:51

ERA
 
From a buddy that used to work at ERA, he said their 139's are back in the air...

:ok:

allwornout 18th Dec 2011 21:56

Whose aircraft was it?
 
ADA had one 139 leased to Brazil at the time. That same aircraft had a hydraulics lock up in Abu Dhabi that was never reported to DGCA. The collective would not go up or down for :10. Coincidence?

Jimmy. 27th Aug 2020 11:07

Final Accident Report Released
 
http://sistema.cenipa.aer.mil.br/cen...15_PR-SEK_.pdf

Still looking for an English version. If I find it I'll update this post.

Accidental Pilot 28th Aug 2020 08:04


Originally Posted by Jimmy. (Post 10871694)
Still looking for an English version. If I find it I'll update this post.

CENIPA page has a bad link. I can't post the url (not enough posts) but if you replace the last part of the link above with the text below, you'll get it:

relatorios/rf/en/RF_A-546CENIPA2015_PR-SEK_-_English_Final.pdf

ApolloHeli 28th Aug 2020 08:18


Originally Posted by Accidental Pilot (Post 10872443)
CENIPA page has a bad link. I can't post the url (not enough posts) but if you replace the last part of the link above with the text below, you'll get it:

relatorios/rf/en/RF_A-546CENIPA2015_PR-SEK_-_English_Final.pdf

Here's the English Link http://sistema.cenipa.aer.mil.br/cen...lish_Final.pdf

212man 28th Aug 2020 09:22


Originally Posted by Accidental Pilot (Post 10872443)
CENIPA page has a bad link. I can't post the url (not enough posts) but if you replace the last part of the link above with the text below, you'll get it:

relatorios/rf/en/RF_A-546CENIPA2015_PR-SEK_-_English_Final.pdf

I was not aware until reading this that the No 2 TRSOV failed leading to total loss of hydraulics. Such a tragedy after seeing great skill by the pilot - he recovered from a 120 degree left bank, to a stablised, wings level, zero yaw autorotation, up until the point he lost control when the TRSOV opened and dumped the No 2 hydraulic fluid!


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