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Savoia 30th Oct 2010 13:27

Helicopters and Superyachts
 
Yacht helicopters and helicopter tenders represent a small but interesting element of executive helicopter operations.

Of yacht-borne helicopter owners two of the most well known are Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen and Roman Abramovich who, between them, own a tidy selection of yachts and associated helicopters.

PAUL ALLEN

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MD900 asigned to the MY Meduse

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MD902 N906AF ascribed to the MY Tatoosh

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S76C N76AF assigned to the largest of Allen's vessels, the MY Octopus

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Rear quarter view of the MY Octopus


N76AF departs Octopus


N76AF departs Octopus while moored in Reykjavik harbour

ROMAN ABRAMOVICH

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Aruban registered EC135 assigned to the MY Ecstasea

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EC145 aboard MY Pelorus

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Luxembourg registered EC155 now P4-HEC

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The MY Pelorus

The 'Abramovich's Navy' as it is often referred to also includes the MY Sussurro which is utilised as a 'guest' ship and the MY 'Le Grand Bleu' which he presented as a gift to his longtime friend Eugene Shvidler.

The 'Abramovich Navy' has a recent edition in the form of the MY Eclispse which currently ranks as the world's largest private yacht being some 11 meters longer than the MY Dubai.

Brilliant Stuff 31st Oct 2010 19:01

Cheers, all very interesting since I like helicopters and boats. I hear though it can be rather boring for a pilot.

delta3 1st Nov 2010 18:10

Boring
 
Depends how you look at it, but from what I hear the pilots complained that they could not fly enough hrs to be safe....


Golden cage...


No complaints from me about the pictures though keep them coming


m2c,
d2

JimBall 2nd Nov 2010 15:16

I am loving your views from another planet. Great pics. Very interesting stuff.

It's colour-matching the "yacht" with the helicopter that must take so much time!

Nice to see how small an S76 can appear when landed on the stern of a small dinghy.

Savoia 2nd Nov 2010 19:34

M.Y. Princess Mariana
 
Well, it seems as if there may be about four of us who are interested in helicopters and yachts - I supposed its enough to continue with. Just one other person would have been fine with me, lol!

Firstly on the matter of boredom. Yes, if you are recruited full time to fly two weeks in summer and another two in the winter then you're going to get fed up pretty quickly but, the number of scenarios where this is the case are few and far between to the best of my knowledge.

What usually happens is one of the following:

Many yacht owners simply charter helicopters from the locations they cruise and, given that the routine for the vast majority of large yacht owners is the Med in summer and the Caribbean in winter, there are no shortage of operators on hand to provide this service. St.Tropez, Nice and Monaco all serve this market along the magical Côte d'Azur.

Where the owner feels that he needs his own flying tender, the two most common solutions are that the rotorcraft is either placed with an operator near the yacht's normal home port when not engaged in yacht operations or, that the rotorcraft is utilised by the owner for onshore operations in between yachting assignments.

In the case of Allen and Ambramovich; Allen's helicopters tend to stay fairly close to his yachts whereas Abramovich's aircraft are deployed all over Europe on an almost endless routine supporting not only the 'Abramovich Navy' but also the European interests of Abramovich's business empire.

With regard to yacht helicopter operations specifically it would be wonderful if an experienced yacht-helicopter pilot could enlighten us with first hand information of some of the details involved.

On the matter of colour coding between yachts and their helicopters - yes, this is crucial! Many 'Yopters' also wear the vessel's name in much the same way as water borne tenders.

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The MY Princess Mariana owned by Mexican telecoms mogul Carlos Peralta. Just above the waterline you will observe a discreet double stripe in pale turquoise. The same double stripe is repeated in scale on the on-board EC130. As stated before, this colour coordinating is most important in yacht-helicopter operations. :E

Still lots more information, photos and videos to come and which I shall drip feed into the thread along the way!


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Savoia 14th Nov 2010 14:25

M.Y. Kingdom 5-KR
 
Continuing the theme of Yacht Helicopters and before this slips into obscurity .. G-REEM and the MY Kingdom 5-KR:

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MY Kingdom 5-KR

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G-REEM aboard Kingdom 5-KR

As JimBall mentioned earlier, getting the yacht/helicopter paint schemes sorted out is crucial. ;)
Here REEM wears Kingdom's colours and also sports the yacht's name across her rear door:

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REEM aboard the 282ft Benetti built 'Kingdom 5-KR' owned by Kingdom Group Chairman Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, nephew to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. (Photo: Roberto Benetti)

This vessel was formely the MY 'Nabila' owned by Saudi businessman Adnan Khashoggi. While in Khashoggi's possession the yacht was hired by Warner Bros. during the filming of the Bond movie 'Never Say Never Again' (1983) where she appeared as the 'Flying Saucer'. When Khashoggi had her built (1980) she was the world's largest private yacht.

Khashoggi (who is a long time resident of Monaco) had another daughter (Petrina) from his former English wife Sandra Daly who took the name Soraya Khashoggi, however after some query by Adnan over his daughter's appearance and, more specifically after DNA testing, it was discovered that Petrina was in fact the daughter of Jonathan Aitkin. (And I thought we Italians were bad!).

These are just some of the things that yacht helicopter pilots need to be aware of during their discourse with employers!


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Brilliant Stuff 15th Nov 2010 00:16

I take it Kingdom lives permanently at that mooring, I am only asking since I noticed her there over the last 8 ish years, or was I just lucky in my three visits to the south of France?

chopper2004 25th Nov 2010 09:31

Thanks for this thread, the Monaco Heliport is on my to-do list in terms of to-visit, to-fly into at some point soon.From the pictures I've surfed on Airliners.net and looking at the great websites of Heli-Air Monaco, Monacair and Heli-Securitie...surely is a beautiful place.

Anyhow quick question and that is from what I've seen its mainly EC-130B4/155/120B/AS-355/MD-600/900 or S-76 on decks but haven't seen anything such as Bell 407 or 206L4 on a yacht let alone at Monaco.

Savoia 25th Nov 2010 10:10

I hope, in due course, that one or more yacht helicopter pilots will drop in and give us some first hand stories regarding their operations.

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If you are going to drop into Monte Carlo perhaps you might PM BobF who recently joined the Rotorheads community, is resident there, and flys with the Aero Club de Monaco.

Regarding aircraft brands along the Côte d'Azur - I'm not sure if I need to go into too much explanation here. We Italians are fairly proud of our food and Ferrari's but for the French pride is as essential as oxygen!

Not only do the bulk of the world's socialites, celebrities and politicans who visit France make their way (eventually) to the south but most of the French Cabinet are to be found there in August along with a vast number of Brits and, of course, the yachting crowd which nows includes numerous Russians.

The French see it as their duty to display their hardware to the point that were any of the companies along the Côte d'Azur to start using 'foreign' products to any noticeable extent - the government might just issue a decree to the effect that those who visit the French Riviera in France must be flown in a French aircraft and preferably by French pilots! :E

Heli Air Monaco did operate 206Ls but these were swiftly replaced by the Ecureuil as the company grew and I mentioned somewhere else on Rotorheads that one of Colin Chapman's first sponsors, Monaco resident David Thieme of Essex Oil, had a beautiful LongRanger (on the French register and which I think may have been F-BOAK). However, as a resident of France (or any neighbouring territory) to buy a Bell is now seen as eccentric!

chopper2004 25th Nov 2010 12:43

Savoia,

Cheers for that much appreciated
Best

Chopper2004

Yellow & Blue Baron 30th Nov 2010 18:11

I have read that the first ever S-76 has been entered on the Swiss register (HB-ZMS) and that this is a helicopter for a yacht!

YBB
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Savoia 30th Nov 2010 19:37

M.Y. Lady Moura
 
YBB: HB-ZMS was previously VP-BIR, an S76B, and was the helicopter tender to MY Lady Moura owned by Saudi businessman Nasser Al-Rashid.

However, she was replaced last year by an S76C++ which, as with all Al-Rashid's aircraft (including his Gulfstream fleet), is on the Bermudan register - in this case VP-CYS.

There are only a handful of yachts with dedicated S76 tenders. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen's MY Octopus (already discussed on this thread) is one of them and Al-Rashid's Lady Moura (named after his first wife) is another. Another contender for the S76-class tender would be the MY Dubai but, we shall save that story for a future post!

The Lady Moura is approx. 350ft in length, cost in excess of USD 200m and maintains a compliment of 60 full-time crew. She was constructed by the German shipyard Blohm+Voss but her styling (both interior and exterior) was the work of renown Italian maritime architect Luigi Sturchio.

Some of the more well know features of the Lady M is that the vessel's name (appearing at the stern as well as on both facias) is made out of solid gold, she has a retractable roof section and a 59ft dining table designed by the British Viscount Lindley.

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The MY Lady Moura with her former Yopter S76B VP-BIR on board

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Lady M equipped with her current Yopter S76C++ VP-CYS. Sorry JimL, non-standard helideck markings (again)

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Nasser Al-Rashid's S76C++ dedicated helicopter tender for the largest of his yachts the Lady Moura. The aircraft wears the owners initials on its tailfin and yes, JimBall, is painted in colours which match the ship

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The Lady M follows a fairly well-established routine of cruising the Côte d'Azur in summer (with Monaco as her home port) and the regions surrounding Palma de Mallorca during the winter months. While she is based at Port Hercule Monaco she can't actually fit in the port but must use the quay normally reserved for cruise liners

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Brilliant Stuff 1st Dec 2010 13:18

I always liked the MY Lady M.

Dubai is using the AW 139s from what I have been told last. With the odd EC365 N3 thrown in.

Savoia 25th Feb 2011 16:15

MV Attessa III
 
Continuing our review of yachts with helicopters we look at the MV Attessa III.

This vessel is the personal yacht of Dennis Washington the Montana-based industrialist and philanthropist and majority owner of the Washington Companies.

Attessa was developed by Feadship with the assistance of De Voogt naval architects. Her interior was conceived by the British designer Andrew Winch. She is a 225ft steel and aluminium displacement motor yacht powered by twin 2,000hp Caterpillar diesels.

Washington has since commissioned a new vessel, Attessa IV, and which might perhaps be the subject of another post.

Attessa spends much of her life along the Western seaboard of the United States but also frequents the Caribbean and Europe.


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With her helicopter tender aboard

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Attessa utilises an EC130B4 painted in colours matching the ship and replete with the vessel's name on her tail

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65WC on-board

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65WC delivers a guest to the ship

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Just to put things in perspective, Attessa (centre) is a relatively small yacht compared with some of her contemporaries


65WC lands on-board Attessa while she is moored at Marina Del Ray

S.

Savoia 31st Mar 2011 07:42

Powerboats
 
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A small sampling of fast boats with their rotary-wing companions - usually deployed in the filming/photography role.

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Have many more images of a similar nature which I might be able to drop into the thread over time.

Those of you who can reacll the 80's TV series 'Miami Vice' will doubtless remember one of the lead characters, Don Johnson. Johnson is a keen powerboater :ok: (great fun by the way and if you haven't yet given it a go then I thoroughly recommend it) and used to employ an Agusta 109A Mk II to trail him during his competitions. The craft carried two rescue divers fully suited-up ready to be dropped in the water in the event that their fearless leader required assistance.

Sav

Savoia 17th Jul 2011 08:46

Yacht Review: M.Y. Samar
 
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The MY Samar 'steams' the south coast of the UK where she was both designed and built

The M.Y. Samar is a 2150 tonne, 77 metre, twin-screw, steel and aluminium motor displacement yacht. She is powered by three 2414hp Wärtsilä diesel engines capable of pushing her at around 14 kts (cruise).

She was launched in 2006 and is owned by the Kuwaiti businessman Kutayba Alghanim whose interests include Kuwait's Gulf Bank as well as the family's trading conglomerate Alghanim Industries; a group of 30 retailing, manufacturing, advertising and shipping businesses. Alghanim's father founded the group in 1932 and later became first person to introduce American cars to Kuwait through a deal with General Motors.

Samar, so named after Alghanim's daughter, has been associated with two aircraft, both serving as on-board tenders and both being Bell 407's. Respectively N407MS ('MS' signifying the Motor Yacht Samar) and N477KA ('KA' being the owner's initials). Both aircraft sport blue tones reflecting similar colours just visible above Samar's waterline. 'KA' additionally wears the yacht's name on her tail.

Registered in the Cayman Islands (George Town), Samar enjoys a diverse sailing repertoire across a diversity of principally European locations.

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N407MS rests atop Samar's helideck in Bergen, Norway


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'KA' with her covers on

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Samar's helideck

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Rear deck with 'KA' aboard



'KA' departing Samar while moored in the Port of Amsterdam

chopper2004 19th Jul 2011 22:17

Many thanks Savoia sharing more photos of those pair of Bell 407 very much appreciated.

Have you seen the MV Atmosphere with its pair of red Bell 407 in your neck of the woods or any high resolution shots?

Thanks again

Savoia 21st Jul 2011 06:42

Yacht Review: M.V. Atmosphere
 
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The expedition yacht 'Atmosphere' rests at anchor in an isolated corner of Chile's breathtakingly beautiful Patagonia region while one of her aerial tenders departs in pursuit of high adventure

The M.V. Atmosphere is a 695 tonne, 45 metre, twin-screw, steel and aluminium motor displacement yacht powered by two 838hp Cummins diesel engines.

She was launched in 2006 and is owned by Andres Ergas, proprietor of Nomads of the Seas, the travel company which promotes Atmosphere's year-round adventures offering some of the world's finest fly fishing, wildlife observation and powder skiing.

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Unlike the previous yachts described on this thread, Atmosphere is an expedition (as opposed to luxury) yacht and, if I was to serve in the role of a 'yopter' (yacht-helicopter) pilot, then I think that to be assigned to a vessel such as Atmosphere would be considerably more interesting than the obligatory two weeks per year spent on-board a luxury yacht ferrying guests and shopping to and fro! (A simplification of the routine I know).

Andres Ergas asserts that fishing and nature have been his lifelong passions and which have led him to the Chilean Patagonia where Atmosphere now trawls some of the "greatest and most amazing places on earth."

The yacht, which can be hired by the week or booked on a per person basis, sails at night coming to anchor in bays and fiords throughout the length of Patagonia. She sleeps 28 guests in 14 cabins and is equipped with an array of 'toys' and amenities including: speed boats (for para-gliding), zodiacs, jet skis, kayaks, scuba gear, gym, sauna, jacuzzis and more.

Over and above Atmosphere's numerous comforts is her exclusive Patagonian cuisine served by renown Chilean chef, Guillermo Rodríguez, president of the Chilean chapter of Les Toques Blanches and who ensures that guests will "encounter a gastronomic experience of memorable magnitude." One can easily imagine that these delicacies are accompanied by a sublime selection of Chilean wines (of doubtless interest to VFR!).


What sets Nomads apart from other operators is their ability to penetrate the heart of Patagonia. This is what had brought us more than 10,000 miles to one of the most pristine environments on earth. Patagonia, which is split between Chile and Argentina, stretches almost 1,000 miles southwards from Puerto Montt and provides a constantly changing vista of fascination and beauty.

The seas positively explode with life, from the tiniest of krill and other shellfish to sea-lions, penguins, dolphins and whales. Steamer ducks, four varieties of cormorant, turkey vultures, the occasional albatross and the caracara (an indigenous falcon) all helped to create a birdwatching nirvana too.
But, what we are of course interested in are Atmosphere's aerial toys which, in this case, take the form of two Bell 407's CC-PTU and CC-CXT. These craft, adorned in their distinctive red and gold livery, are responsible for transporting Atmosphere's guests to the scene of their adventures including: wildlife watching, fly-fishing, heli-skiing/boarding and heli-dining.

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By comparison with the first image (above) it is obvious to see that Atmosphere received modifications to her superstructure involving the extension of her helideck in order to accommodate two aircraft

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Atmosphere's two red and gold Bell 407's parked line astern on the vessel's helideck

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CC-CXT departs with a batch of Atmosphere's guests

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CC-PTU surrounded by satisfied customers enjoying the experience of remote area fly-fishing

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PTU drops off more fly-fishing clients. Both aircraft wear the company name on their nose and upper-cowlings as well as the vessel's name beneath the windows of the rearward facing seats

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Preparing for departure

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One of Atmosphere's pilots talks with the vessel's helideck crew

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Heli-boarding is big business among Atmosphere's guests

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Anyone for Patagonian crab?

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Heli-dining across the unique scenery of Patagonia features large among the itinerary of Atmosphere's guests


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One of atmosphere's Bell 407's lifts-off from the vessel's helideck against a backdrop of dramatic cloud formations


Helicopter pilot Francisco made a quick announcement. 'Is everyone up for a low-level pass of the ship? If you are, I need to see all six hands up!' Six arms were immediately raised. And, with no further ado, our Bell 407 roared down to wave level and completed a high speed fly-by of our seagoing home, the MV Atmosphere.

Without realising it, Francisco had set the most exquisite exclamation mark on a week of Patagonian perfection. We had embarked in Puerto Montt, 28 intrepid travellers ready for adventure but unsure what to expect from this voyage into one of the world's most desolate wildernesses.
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PTU departs the ship on an early evening sortie


Nomads of the Seas promotional video


Chopper 2004 wrote: Have you seen the MV Atmosphere with its pair of red Bell 407 in your neck of the woods or any high resolution shots?
Yes, in fact Atmosphere was included in the small sampling of images I posted on page 2 in response to your initial query about shipborne 407's. This post is a more complete response. Regarding sighting Atmosphere in Genoa, Venice or any other Italian port, I might just choke on my Bellini if that were to happen, for while she is technically available for worldwide charter she is now so deeply ensconced in her Patagonian routine that is it hard to imagine seeing her elsewhere!

Regarding high res images yes, I have seven, and if you will PM me your email address I shall gladly forward them.

9Aplus 22nd Jul 2011 09:10

This morning, port of Hvar, island Hvar, Adriatic sea, 9A Croatia
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M/Y SAMAR is a 77m (252 foot) steel-and-aluminum Laurent Giles designed luxury motor yacht with studio and interior styling by Joe Thome. She was built and launched by Devonport Yachts of England in 2006. Yacht SAMAR is a very large and luxurious charter yacht which features almost everything that can be offered on a private motor yacht. SAMAR has a helipad, a large Jacuzzi pool, an open bar, large deck areas, a side garage, as well as a movie theater. The luxury yacht is capable of extended global cruising, with a range of 6,000 nautical miles and cold storage provisions for 44 people (including crew).
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500 Fan 22nd Jul 2011 22:12

That EC130 landing in Post #14 seemed a bit overly cautious with a lot of time spent in the avoid curve. I think they need to get a few tunaboat pilots involved. Straight in, no messing. They might spill a few sherrys in the back, though!


500 Fan.

HowlingMad Murdock 22nd Jul 2011 22:21

Fantastic pics! Thanks to all for posting. The colour scheme co-ordinated yachts and heli's are awesome! As JimBall states 'views from another planet' I have seen one of Abramoviche's heli's at Redhill Aerodrome....nice!:)

strey 22nd Jul 2011 22:57

Nice thread!

Some nice little boats and even better heli's ;)

InDaBack 23rd Jul 2011 00:38

Facinating stuff.... that people should have so much money...? could not even fantasise about having so much wealth to live that kind of lifestyle...

thanks for posting the photos..

aclark79 23rd Jul 2011 06:20

Thanks much, great thread.

When I was in flight school I worked as a guard on a USNS Ship that was being worked on at the shipyard. Paul Allen's yacht came in during the day and I was looking at it that night thinking to myself, "phsaw, that thing isn't so big". Then someone walked in front of the floor to ceiling TV and I got a sense of the proportion of the thing... ... ... its massive.

Keep em coming.

9Aplus 23rd Jul 2011 08:48

M/Y SAMAR 22.07.2011. in front of Hvar
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Savoia 23rd Jul 2011 10:43

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9A+: Having just posted a review of the MY Samar your photos of this delightful vessel during her current cruise of the Croatian coast couldn't be better timed. Well done! :ok:

Coratia has of couse become an increasingly popular sailing/cruising destination over the past two decades and I very much look forward to taking my family there in the near future on what will be our first visit to your country.


500 fan wrote: That EC130 landing in Post #14 seemed a bit overly cautious with a lot of time spent in the avoid curve.
Most of the larger vessels are equipped with helicopter handling dollies enabling the crew (usually pilot) to manoeuvre the craft after it has landed. However, many mid-sized ships (such as Mr Washington's Attessa III upon which the EC130 is landing in the video clip) do not carry such a dolly.

There are a number of considerations to take into account when it comes to the post-landing positioning of an on-board helicopter. These range from the interaction [read distance] of the main rotors to the nearest outcrops of superstructure to the owner's son quipping: "Why wasn't the skid placed on the 'H' when you landed?". Again, on some of the smaller and mid-sized vessels access to certain parts of the airframe can be affected by seemingly small deviations from the 'ideal' landing spot. Pilots aboard such vessels therefore often take their time so as to ensure that they set down in exactly the right place on the ship's helipad.

Re: Tuna boat ops. Yes, many Tuna pilots are quite capable flyers and this would have been a 'fun' job back in the days when the work was largely carried-out by 500's. Now, as you probably know, the Mariner and her four-seat sister have taken over this market.

SilsoeSid 24th Jul 2011 12:13

Some great pictures being posted, keep 'em coming. Have they been on the Rotoreads calendars before? If not they should be :ok:



That EC130 landing in Post #14 seemed a bit overly cautious with a lot of time spent in the avoid curve. I think they need to get a few tunaboat pilots involved. Straight in, no messing. They might spill a few sherrys in the back, though!
Surely the 'avoid curve' isn't just the low airspeed & high part, isn't it also the high airspeed & low part ? :p

500 Fan 24th Jul 2011 19:19

The comments about the cautious approach and time spent in the avoid curve were stated purely in jest as a way to introduce the completely different approach made by the pilot in the tunaboat video. It certainely wasn't a criticism of the EC130 pilot. The biggest problem with the EC130 video is the ridiculously small landing pad he is trying to squeeze onto!

500 Fan.

Savoia 25th Jul 2011 05:50

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Gibraltar Civil Aviation Authority ban departure from the M.Y. Calixe


The captain and crew of M/Y Calixe had a run in with Gibraltar authorities earlier this month trying to helicopter their guests off the yacht.

It appears that one aviation official gave the yacht clearance to take off, and then another rescinded the permission just as the helicopter was started.

“It’s a perfect example of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing,” said Rusty Allen, captain of Calixe. “The main issue was the man who gave us the initial permission was not authorized to do so. The authorities have apologized for the problems we encountered.”

In an effort to clarify Gibraltar’s position on helicopters taking off from yachts, Chris Purkiss, Director of Civil Aviation in Gibraltar, wrote a letter outlining the rules. He forwarded it to all marina operators and The Triton.

It reads, in part: “The main problem appears to have been caused by poor communication and a lack of guidance as to who is empowered to approve take-offs from areas other than Gibraltar Airport.

“The Civil Aviation (Rules of the Air) Regulations 2009 Section 6 (a) (ii) allow for take-offs from motor yachts such as Calixe and provides exemption from the 500-foot low-flying rule “when landing and taking-off in accordance with normal aviation practice or air-taxiing”.

“Obviously defining normal aviation practice is somewhat subjective, but in general terms if the helicopter is being operated from the motor yacht when in Gibraltar Territorial Waters to transfer personnel from the yacht to an approved landing site, or vice versa, then this is normal practice; in doing so helicopter captains will be expected to operate to their own operations manual, to have adequate separation from other vessels and to liaise with Gibraltar Air Traffic Control to ensure deconfliction from aircraft operating into or out of the airport.

“However, helicopter operations from inside the marinas within Gibraltar are not considered normal aviation and will not be authorized.”

Capt. Allen said the letter’s reference to operations “inside the marinas” was misleading as Calixe was in the basin with clearance all around when the helicopter started. The issue was resolved when an oil spill boom that had been laid out because of a recent oil tank explosion was moved and the yacht went out to the bay and launched the helicopter.

Gibraltar Airport Air Traffic Control can be contacted by e-mail at [email protected] or by telephone 00350 20053383.

Purkiss can be contacted by e-mail at [email protected] or by phone 00350 20061174 or mobile 00350 56000050.
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The MY Calixe with her on-board EC120 N406AE

Gib aviation authorities stop helicopter flight off M/Y Calixe | The Triton

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A small addition to the ongoing discussion on the MY Samar:

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On-board take of N477KA attached to the MY Samar

What Traffic 25th Jul 2011 10:36

There's also the Leight Star, owned by Howard Leight (Jr, I believe) and it's associated A109 with a really classy paint scheme.

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iuk1963 26th Jul 2011 14:57

great pics! life is tough!!..... :ok:

Savoia 27th Jul 2011 06:26

Built in 1982 and refitted in 2008, the MY Leight Star owned by Howard Leight, the ear protection manufacturer and both Leight and his son, Howard Leight Jnr, fly helicopters.

On board photos of the MY Leight Star

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Howard Leight Jnr with the family Agusta 109A Mk II N711HL

The Leight's also used to own an R44 N7186Z:

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The MY Leight Star with 86Z on the helideck

However, 86Z was not to be as the craft was involved in an incident on 22nd August 2010.
An excerpt from the accident report reads:

On August 22, 2010, about 1819 Pacific daylight time, a Robinson R44, N7186Z, made a forced landing in the water at San Diego, California. Point Zero Corporation was operating the helicopter under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91. The private pilot sustained serious injuries. The helicopter sustained substantial damage from impact forces. The local personal flight was departing from a yacht. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed.
The pilot reported that the engine lost power at 100 feet above ground level (agl), and he heard a low rotor revolutions per minute (rpm) alarm. He inflated the helicopter’s pontoons prior to water impact. After touchdown, the helicopter rolled onto its side. The pilot extricated himself, and was standing on the wreckage when first responders arrived.
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86Z after the indicent

Savoia 1st Aug 2011 09:49

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Flying from Superyachts

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Steve Forbes' 'Capitalist Tool' JetRanger rests atop the Forbes yacht the M.Y. Highlander

An article from Business Aviation Lifestyle


It’s one of the world’s more exclusive clubs, made up of pilots whose job in the growing world of luxury superyachts is helicopter operations.

No one seems to know exactly how many pilots are actively engaged in this calling, but best estimates put the number at barely 50, based on the fact that no more than 50 superyachts worldwide can support helicopter operations.

Flying helicopters from superyachts has never been a particularly large club, but in recent years it has expanded, as demand by the super-wealthy for super-yachts has grown and yacht owners have come to see an onboard helicopter as a necessity rather than a convenience.

In years gone by, the truly large private yachts of a size capable of supporting a helicopter landing deck–roughly 150 feet minimum from stem to stern– were often converted from cargo or oceanographic survey vessels or, in a few cases, ocean-going tugs. A few had already been equipped for helicopter operations. Others had helicopter decks added as part of the shipyard conversion process.

Today, it is rare to see a superyacht launched that does not have a helicopter deck because more and more buyers are having a helicopter deck incorporated into the original design to enhance the yacht’s value in charter operations and resale.

Almost an Aircraft Carrier

When Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen took delivery of his new, 412-foot-long Octopus (see post #1 of this thread) early last year, it came with a helicopter pad on the bow and a larger helideck aft. If there is any doubt as to the size of this vessel, and the importance its owner places on helicopter operations, consider that it also has a hangar capable of accommodating a Sikorsky S-76. The ship has often been observed with an S-76 on the aft deck and a smaller MD Explorer on the forward landing pad.

According to industry insiders, as many as 200 yachts worldwide are outfitted with helicopter decks. But they agree that despite having an “H” painted somewhere on the deck and claims of being helicopter-capable, only about 50 meet most civil aviation requirements and most of those are yachts not regularly engaged in helicopter operations.

A 200-foot-long yacht has a beam of about 36 feet, barely sufficient to support helicopter operations. “The smallest yacht I know of with a helicopter pad was about 110 feet long, and it was very tight,” said Mark Elliott of International Yacht Collection in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

Owners of yachts that do not have a helideck cite a number of reasons for the absence. One is that they are unwilling to give up to helicopter operations a limited amount of sea-going real estate that might be devoted to an additional stateroom or two, or an outdoor bar and Jacuzzi. As for yachts already in service, an afterthought helicopter deck is, almost without exception, said one yacht designer, “an ugly appendage,” no matter how convenient.

Finally, a lot of smaller yachts with narrow beams are not suitable for helicopter operations. “The landing rejection environment usually does not meet the public transport requirements of the civil aviation authorities in most countries,” said Nigel Watson, founder and chairman of Heli Riviera in Cannes, France.

Only a handful of the latest superyachts have both a helicopter deck and built-in hangar. With this in mind, a number of designers are working on a portable hangar that can be easily and quickly erected, broken down and stowed. “Maybe some sort of pressurized dome that would be practical for long ocean passages, and that would look nice,” said Watson.

Protecting the helicopter from the elements–in particular the corrosive effects of salt spray during extended periods at sea–is a major consideration. Fresh-water washdowns and maintenance checks are more frequent for helicopters engaged in yacht operations than those that are primarily shore-based.

In ports where facilities do not permit larger yachts to dock, the vessel’s helicopter allows the user to avoid the time-consuming process of being ferried ashore and then driven to a destination. The helicopter also permits a higher degree of privacy and security, which many high-profile yacht passengers and guests consider critical.

As they do in a shore-based environment, yacht-based helicopters also transport equipment and supplies and provide aerial sightseeing and emergency medical evacuation.

By far most of the helicopters used in yacht operations are owned and operated by the vessel’s owner. But not always. Watson, an English expatriate with both home and business in Cannes, can provide helicopters and/or flight crews for yacht owners, but his service comes primarily in the form of operational support.

Watson, 47, is ideally suited to his calling. He served five years with the Royal Navy, three years with the navy of the Sultan of Oman and 11 years in the luxury yacht industry. He has been a yacht captain and holds commercial helicopter and fixed-wing ratings.

Among Heli Riviera’s current clients is a yacht owner whose assets include a “substantial flight department” that wanted nothing to do with flying a helicopter on and off the yacht and frequently subcontracts with Heli Riviera to provide pilots and training and manage the yacht helicopter operation.

Pilot Training Is On-the-Job

Pilot training for helicopter operations on a yacht is, for the most part, an on-the-job process, “unless you flew for the Navy or Coast Guard,” said Elliott.

Watson recommends at least five hours of training in helicopter operations from a shipboard deck, and his company provides a service that matches new and experienced pilots for this purpose. There are no civil aviation regulations regarding pilot training, but according to Watson, lately insurers have been taking a closer look at yacht operations, and expectations of training and experience are therefore likely to become more structured and more formal.

Contrary to the popular perception, said Elliott, it is actually easier to land on and take off from a yacht that is moving into the wind than one that is at anchor or tied to a pier. Elliott described the process of landing aboard a helideck on a vessel at rest as akin to balancing a spinning plate on the end of a long wooden dowel.

Elliott, 48, knows of what he speaks. He obtained his fixed-wing ticket at the tender age of 16, was a yacht captain by 19 and was flying helicopters by the time he was 21. Now he works for International Yacht and runs his own helicopter charter business with a JetRanger “in New England in the summer and the Caribbean every winter.”

Yacht flying, he said, is as much a lifestyle as a job. A pilot isn’t going to build a lot of hours. Most average less than 200 hours a year, some much less than that. “It’s not necessarily the job for a young guy who wants to build hours,” concluded Elliott.

Watson added that it’s more a bachelor pilot’s existence, “and not a bad one at that. You see the world at someone else’s expense and you get to play with some pretty nice toys. You just have to accept that you’re not going to be flying very much.”

As for older pilots with family responsibilities, “They’re probably going to find it difficult to handle the long separations,” he added.

The annual salary, said Watson, is “a little above that in the average marketplace,” which for a corporate helicopter captain in the U.S. is in the $55,000 to $60,000 range. Watson said for a pilot with an A&P license, salaries start as high as $7,500 a month. It is not unheard of for a pilot who has been with the same employer for some years to enjoy an annual salary in excess of $150,000. But it is rare.

The higher pay suggests that much more than flying may be expected of a pilot engaged in yacht operations. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn’t. A small number of pilots are involved exclusively in flying. “The primo pilots on the big yachts do nothing but fly,” said Elliott. “They don’t even wash ’em.”

A much larger number of pilots have additional duties aboard the yacht, ranging from maintenance to onboard fuel system management. It is not unusual to find pilots assigned duty as officer-of-the-deck during periods that the yacht is moored offshore or tied up at pierside, or on the vessel’s bridge while under way.

The pilot may also be required to supervise training for deck personnel in landing, takeoff and refueling procedures. In cases where there is an onboard refueling system, the pilot’s duties may also include maintenance and training and supervision of the deck crew in fueling operations.

The yacht owner’s pilot is also required to possess certain personal characteristics, not the least of which is tact and charm. “A yacht pilot,” said Watson, “is expected to be a combination of Tom Cruise and Father Christmas–confident but deferential– and personable.”

Meeting International Regulations

According to Watson, designers and builders always make an effort to adopt commercial aviation standards as a basis for helicopter deck design and construction, but having a deck that meets commercial aviation standards is only the start of regulatory considerations.

The pilot of a helicopter engaged in yacht operations must become familiar with the regulations of the civil aviation authorities of dozens of countries. It becomes particularly demanding in the Caribbean and Mediterranean, where a yacht owner may require transport from an airport in one country to a private location in another, as well as to and from the yacht.

It isn’t always convenient for pilots to keep abreast of changing regulations in myriad countries, nor do they have the contacts in various government agencies to facilitate the timely issuance of permits.

In France, for example, permits are required from that country’s naval authorities for the operation of helicopters on and off yachts, whether at anchor or at sea, while within French territorial waters. Further, French authorities require that offshore helicopter landing surfaces meet specific standards. Watson explained that the standards are “specific to each vessel, helicopter type and aircrew, and if there are any changes to any of these, the operator must resubmit the permit application.”

Heli Riviera provides a service to help pilots and yacht owners meet regulations and operational standards worldwide, and as the number of superyachts carrying helicopters continues to grow, Watson expects demand for the service will also grow.

Neither Elliott nor Watson appears to have any regrets about his years as a helicopter pilot operating from moving targets. “I worked on Big Eagle (later Nadine) as both captain and pilot and had extreme freedom as both. The owner, said Elliott, would call and simply say, ‘Take us on an adventure.’” We would be anchored in Villefrance (on the French Riviera), waterskiing one moment flying to the Alps to snow ski the next.

“It is a glamour job, and when it’s right, it’s great!”

Savoia 2nd Aug 2011 10:07

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The helicopter-yacht community is a pretty small slice of the rotary-wing industry and accurate information and up-to-date images can be hard to come by, especially in the more 'remote' cruising grounds, typically the Indian and Pacific Oceans but also among many lesser known waters. Anyone with access to such material please do drop a post on the thread and expose us to this intriguing profession!

And .. if you've enjoyed the images here so far then why not check-out Jeremy Parkin's Superyacht Images Collection selections from which, I am sure, will end up on this thread over time.

Oh and Jeremy, if you're reading this, my congrats on a brilliant news website. Bravo! :ok:

9Aplus 4th Aug 2011 13:15

Yesterday evening in sunset.... EC135 on ?
In front of Hvar
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wiganairways 4th Aug 2011 14:57

M.Y. Kingdom 5-KR
 
A photo of G-REEM as she was before, operated by Clyde Helicopters as G-CHLA and being used by Strathclyde Police.

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Mind you, this could be classified as being on the water as the pads jut out into the River Clyde, remember and arm the floats, just incase :cool:
Wonder if they know it operated for Strathclyde's finest?

WA

Vizsla 4th Aug 2011 15:28

Is the "Bearcat" lock on landing system still used ?

TacomaSailor 4th Aug 2011 23:29

A whole 'nuther world
 
In the mid '90s I was at the Fort Lauderdale boat show looking for a biggish sailboat. I was working with a broker whose main business was very large yachts. I started hanging around boats in the early '70s and had done work for several large boat owners. I thought I knew a bit about boats - but a short balding guy with south European accent walked up to the broker and told a story that showed me how little I really knew about high end boats.

The gentleman, in his mid-40s, was closely accompanied by two very large and obviously fit men wearing sports jackets with pronounced bulges under each arm. He began to berate, in a friendly but stern voice, the broker. His complaint was that the yacht the broker had sold him earlier in the year had actually cost several million more than anticipated.

The Bell helicopter that came with the yacht was so unreliable that the new owner had to buy a 2nd helo and employ a second crew just to be sure that he would have one helo that could fly when he wanted it.

He also asked if the broker knew how much it cost to fly the 2nd helo from New York to Miami or Nassau or anywhere in the Caribbean? And... why hadn't the broker told him about all those expenses.

They parted on a jovial note but the broker was not as happy and carefree the rest of the afternoon as we looked at my, by now, rather mundane 60' sailboats.

Savoia 5th Aug 2011 07:02

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Full-cost disclosure should be standard practice for any true sales professional. In fact I generally quote 'high', usually to take into account the cost escalations which frequently occur during the oft lengthy period between initial enquiry and closure of sale. Nearly all of my final invoices come in under my initial quotes as I prefer my clients to encounter pleasant as opposed to unpleasant surprises but, that's just me.

The price I pay for giving my clients a smile on their face when they receive their final bill is that, at first glance, my services seem slightly more expensive but, when a final cost analysis is made, they often pan out to be below that of my competitors.


The Bell helicopter that came with the yacht was so unreliable that the new owner had to buy a 2nd helo ..
Surprising, as if its one thing the Bell products are known for is reliability. If however the aircraft was a yacht-borne bird then yes, the possibility of more intensive maintenance is there as a result of exposure to corrosion.

It would be great if there are any yacht helicopter pilots out there who could elaborate on the routine involved in minimising the effects of corrosion for yacht-borne aircraft. Daily fresh water washing, yes, but (at least in the 80's) there used to be a variety of corrosion-preventing sprays (one, I think, for the 206 which involved spraying something into the exhaust stack??).

Matari 7th Aug 2011 14:12

I would think yacht-borne heli maintenance would be very similar to offshore heli maintenance.

Offshore operators have learned the hard way how to work in salt-air environments. Follow the manufacturer's manuals, of course, but this was the routine for one well-known civil operator:

Start with a bare-metal ship, and wash thoroughly with mil-spec soap. Prime thoroughly. Apply a thin bead of "pro-seal" to every seam and joint...wherever moisture can collect and create dangerous corrosion. Apply a solid, multi-coat paint job.

Apply pressure tape where frequent rubbing or abrasion will cause the paint to be breached (near fuel fill cap, cargo compartments, steps, etc.)

Wash airframe daily. Water wash engine daily. Soap wash engine one a month. Cover stacks and inlets.

Wipe the blades at least once a week with 50/50 mixture of jet fuel and WD-40.

And keep an eye on scratches and dings. They will morph into bubbly white corrosion in no time.

What seems difficult with yacht ops might be the lack of copious fresh water and the "pristine" nature of the helideck. I'd want to wash the ship down daily with good, fresh water. Is that practical on a yacht? On offshore platforms we just drenched the ship, water running all over the helideck into the pad sump drains.

The folks drinking the mint juleps below decks on some of these yachts might not think too kindly of that...

Oh, and I've never heard of spraying anything into the exhaust stack of a C20...would be interested to hear what that was about.


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