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Identify this helo: Bin Laden compound
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1...90be1e4ac0.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2...90be1e40f0.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...84_470x423.jpg saw these in the comments section of AvWeek blogs....supposedly this was the crashed MH60K from the UBL raid. A 5 bladed TR on a hawk derivative would seem an awfully substantial modification. |
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That's no fan-in-fin.
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Have to agree - not a fenestron style hub. Also the tail setion looks strange for an MH60.
Notice the horizontal stab seems to have an angled plan form. Not got a clue!!! :confused: |
Another view
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-2...eryV9-nldh.jpg
Update: a little wider angle http://i54.tinypic.com/hs13tf.jpg |
Is it just me or do these two photos look different?
Eivissa's appear to have no tail rotor on the top of the fin unlike the one from Sans with the shrouded 5 blader. |
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I would bet for a modified blackhawk or other TRANSPORT helicopter (not comanche), you wouldn't be hovering above the house in a combat helicopter.
Anyway... Amazing! Regards Aser |
Well, that's easy - it's an...
excuse me, there's someone outside the window with a g gfsn,zxsdkjng.xdfkhjgn |
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-2...eryV9-nldh.jpg
And what's left on the other side of the wall:confused: :E |
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So what is new about "stealth" helicopters being used by the US Armed forces and CIA? There's been a long discussion about this Hughes 500 project that was used in the Vietnam War. Why would the CIA/US Military not continue in those secret efforts.
Air America's Black Helicopter |
guys I'm not a pilot, but show in some 'forums' that it might have been a decoy to convince Pakistani people that their government really didn't know. Sounds far fetched to be but I'm not flying those things...
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This was NAVY Seal Team 6...
Clearly that is the lower drive unit of one of their rubber duckies outboards.... :8 |
Rotate some of the photo's.. you'll see there seems to be a large fairing or housing round the TRGB, and certainly the 'dinnerplate' is echod on the vertical stab too.
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Could be some commanche mated with the 500, to become a super stealth, so steathy that they diddnt hear the other till they mated just above GL, and the result is toasted stealth....??
to quote.. "the answer is out there" didnt this also happen in the Desert of Iran a few Decades ago.? Peter R-B |
a modify balck-sea hawk
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Has anyone thought of a modifided CH 53 with that size tail boom and 5 bladed TR cann't see it being a Blackhawk.
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I smell a rat |
Whatever Chuck was driving I'm guessing he needs a little practice on his confined areas. :)
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The plot thickens!
I'm sure the research from the RAH-66 Project didn't go to waste! |
Maybe not, but that pile of crap doesn't look like it was once a real aircraft.
Too neat... This is what it looks like when something stealthy crashes: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5094/f117serbia.jpg F117 in Serbia, 1999 So, why not use the opportunity and get the competition thinking ... :yuk: |
a modify balck-sea hawk |
851Pilot has nailed it. (But where are the other bits:confused: )
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post6428762 |
311kph,
I read that the wreck was destroyed, most likely thermite grenades or similar. I doubt the F-117 driver in Serbia was in a position to have much to do with his wreckage after he ejected! |
Something seems fishy !
Hello fellow rotor heads. I don't doubt that its possible that some sort of quieting TR has been developed for the H-60 but something seems fishy about these two sets of pics. The one with the mystery 5-bladed hub is taken of an assembly of some sort that is sort of depicted to show it strewn over a wall. This wall is completely different than the wall in the other photos. In addition, the assembly itself seems to be not genuine aviation construction - it almost looks like a welded seam going up what would/could/should be the vertical tail structure. Anyway - the photos that are all over the press show the brick constructed wall and that is clearly an S-70/H-60 tail. It does indeed look like it could be an MH-60K because it has the Naval Hawk's foldable rectangular stabilators in lieu of the more rounded standard Black Hawk stabilator. Just as with the Marine/HMX-1 Presidential VH-60N hybrids, the "Special K's" were made to be shipboard compatible. ANyway - back to the main issue: that odd mystery structure just somehow doesn't seem genuine to me based on the wall - not on the viability of the tail design...Any other POV's welcome though - this is just my first reaction.
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Whatever it is, I'll bet Lyn Tilton is pissed she missed out on the contract to build it.......:E
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The last picture of that "Fenestron" looking thing shows that it is absolutely huge, take a look at the guy to the left and compare...
Also, something strange about the hub, it looks a bit fake. The line looking like a weld on what we'll call the tail boom seems more like damage to composite structure after a crash than a weld to me. |
It seems the press agrees that this tail section is 'odd'
Top Secret Stealth Helicopters used in Bin Laden Raid I am a fledgling pilot with minimal experience and the first time I saw this tail it didn't sit right with me. |
Maybe it's a Glider a la World War 2? ;)
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Since this is a rumour network, I'd heard a rumour from a very well placed source that the US Army special ops folks had some stealth Blackhawks since - are you ready for this? - the mid '80s....
Nice to see they were able to keep 'em quiet for that long. I can only wonder what wonderous sights those boys have seen. |
It's hard to believe that these super-duper-specops guys forget to clean up their mess properly.
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Trac, since when did Eurocopter make Blackhawks? ;)
Maybe the pilot kicked in left instead of right pedal :-) (assuming the rotors as shown in that drawing turn "the wrong way") |
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another interesting link
Active Sensors | NASA SELECTS ACTIVE SENSORS RVDT?S FOR LATEST BLACKHAWK STEALTH PROJECT Regards Aser |
So, now that we established they are likely stealthy blackhawks... The next question is, was this a 'mechanical failure' or did that thing get blown on to the wire topped fence when they destroyed the thing? Kinda hints at a tail strike...
Anyone? Mr. Coyle? |
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-assau-005.jpg
You can clearly see a standard S70/UH60 series pitch horn in this picture, just slightly left of center. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.co...Spenard/12.jpg |
Images are legit and come from numerous news agencies. So I guess it must be true.
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Just wanted to add, and yes it's totally off topic, but his million dollar mansion looks like a hovel. The construction is shoddy and there is a real lack of landscaping or any kind of flair to that place. Too much living in caves I guess... And for all of the trouble of big walls and privacy fencing, there sure seems a lack of security or true fortification to this place. After all, we did land at least one blackhawk in it. It will be interesting to see what else is revealed about this hovel of a compound. Makes me really wonder how much he relied on Paki intel for his early warning system. Just glad he's dead, God Bless America and the troops :ok:
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